Author Topic: Driver ticketed for using biofuel (Read 765 times)

Curval · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2007, 10:01:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
To do what you so flippanntly suggest would require a toll booth on every corner. The roads are not just the highways, it's all roads. The tax is leavied on fuel sales as the most fair way to divide the cost of providing the roads. Those that use them for vehicular transportation pay for it through taxes levied on the fuel they use in the motor vehicles they use ON the roads.

Secondarily, since the cost of transporting goods and materials on the roads is passed on to the customer, anyone who buys products also pay's a share in the cost of the roads used to translport them.

I really don't understand your problem with this particular method of taxing. In effect it's a user tax primarily for the benefit of the service (roads) the user received.

If the individual had paid the road taxes on the oil he intended to use on the road eh wouldn't have had this problem. This is not a penalty on the use of bio fuels it's a case of tax evasion.

I flippantly suggested NOTHING. I merely asked a question.

I have no problem with it other than the fact that I would have thought that a gas tax would be a tax on gas whereas a road tax would be a tax on road useage.

lazs says they do call it a road tax...I'll take his word for it.

FiLtH · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2007, 10:10:42 AM »

&^%^ing Horse&^*%

tedrbr · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2007, 10:50:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Engine
I keep wondering whether Lazs would be ok with being taxed on a new highly-pollutant fuel that increased global warming.

Only if everybloodybody had to pay it, whether they owned a car, bicycle, took public transportation, or walked wherever they went on sidewalks that were near a road.

Gotta be fair after all.

Fury · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2007, 11:00:02 AM »

How do hybrids work out with the tax? They drive just as far but don't use the same amount of gas. Is there some sort of extra amount a hybrid driver has to pay somewhere? Or even a full electric (do those even exist anymore)?

mora · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:32:42 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
It is a tax on fuel that is supposed to be used to pay for roads.

Farmers here use a diesel that is dyed red and has no road tax on it. There is a huge fine for using it in any vehicle that is caught using public roads.

Some exceptions... they can use public roads to get to one field from another.

lazs

Thats the way it's here too. The fine here is around $8000. Also you would get the same fine if you use any other type of fuel and haven´t paid the tax on it(vegoil).

I´m with lazs on this one, if you you use public roads you must pay for their use like everybody else.

mora · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:35:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Fury
How do hybrids work out with the tax? They drive just as far but don't use the same amount of gas. Is there some sort of extra amount a hybrid driver has to pay somewhere? Or even a full electric (do those even exist anymore)?

You do not charge a hybrid car externally, so all the power generated comes from burning motor fuel. For fully electric cars the should be a system to collect the fee for using public roads another way.

kamilyun · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:42:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Fury
How do hybrids work out with the tax? They drive just as far but don't use the same amount of gas. Is there some sort of extra amount a hybrid driver has to pay somewhere? Or even a full electric (do those even exist anymore)?

I don't have time to look it up, but about 2 years ago, there was a California legislator who wanted to introduce an additional tax on hybrids for precisely this reason...

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2007, 02:33:51 PM »

I am not a fan of tax for anything but if you have to have taxs/fees then they should be set aside and used only for what they are intended.

We do have sales tax here on top of the road tax for fuel.

with all the new hybrids and such we should just drop all the road tax on fuel and charge everyone the same amount based on mileage... in other words... you pay by how many miles you drive a year.

lazs

LePaul · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2007, 05:30:12 PM »

Gas taxes are "supposed" to be use for road maintenance and construction.

In my state, the Democrats have plundered that fund for more give aways to those who find work...unappealing.

So now they are putting out a $150 million bond issue....to pay for the repairs our gas taxes were *supposed* to cover.

WilldCrd · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2007, 05:56:25 PM »

How much of the fuel/road tax actually goes to roads?
How much actually goes to special interest groups or to fund some stupid study?

RightF00T · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:02:37 PM »

Wow...good ol' NC the good ol boys didnt get their cut so they tracked the hippie down. Just how was he supposed to go about paying this tax? I would have done the same thing and not realized I had to pay a tax either.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:17:25 PM »

I'd like to know how they caught him

::Edit::

Nevermind.
the idiot placed a "Powered by 100% vegitable oil" bumpersticker on his car

kamilyun · « **Reply #27 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:32:59 PM »

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Originally posted by WilldCrd
How much of the fuel/road tax actually goes to roads?
How much actually goes to special interest groups or to fund some stupid study?

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Originally posted by LePaul
Gas taxes are "supposed" to be use for road maintenance and construction.

In my state, the Democrats have plundered that fund for more give aways to those who find work...unappealing.

So now they are putting out a $150 million bond issue....to pay for the repairs our gas taxes were *supposed* to cover.

When the Fed gas tax was introduced in 1932 it was NOT specifically for roads. It was for "general funds"

Not until the mid 1950s did the gas tax become linked with road construction/maintainence. At least until the late 1990's up to 25% of the tax was for "general funds" and not road related. There's several sites with breakdowns of how the money was allocated, but nothing I found for anything 2005-2006ish.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:38:50 PM »

Tax money is often more addicting then crack.

The funny thing is that the Government is willing to do more to get their fix then the crack head.

BluKitty · « **Reply #29 on:** June 13, 2007, 07:06:09 PM »

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Originally posted by RightF00T
... I would have done the same thing and not realized I had to pay a tax either.

Ya ignorance is no excuse they say . . .

They also say . . .
The US Tax Code is the only thing I have run across that is completely impentrable to the human mind. -Albert Einstein (He said somthing to this effect, I imagine I proably got some of the words wrong though)