Why did we go into Iraq?

[Excel1]

Originally posted by Dadano
Why is the idea of going into Iraq for oil looked down upon by so many?

Because no one one likes a greedy guts?

Contrived justification that was sold to the rest of the world as well as America; bad timing- it was rushed and gave the strong impression of cashing in on 9/11. It wasn't very subtle.

There may never have been an opportunity to go into iraq with better justification and more support.. but who knows. Sanctions and no fly zones couldn't go on for ever, which may have been a good thing. An unhindered saddam would probably have wasted little time in setting himself up and providing the justification to be spanked just as he did for GW1. I don't think the guy could help himself; it's just the way he was. Things would have been far easier with a much bigger welcome mat rolled out and oil probably would have been less of an issue.

[Red Tail 444]

[B@tfinkV]

Originally posted by Hoffman

That's what a war for oil looks like.

 

exactly.

and this being true, make it important that we make the war look different.

as you just stated, its obvious what a war for oil would look like, so we made a war that didnt look so obvious and was facilitated with excuses like WMDs and War on Terror.



An unhindered saddam would probably have wasted little time in setting himself up and providing the justification to be spanked just as he did for GW1. I don't think the guy could help himself; it's just the way he was. Things would have been far easier with a much bigger welcome mat rolled out and oil probably would have been less of an issue.

and, for me personaly, this is the biggest problem in the world today.

WE think we have the right to control a nation less developed than ourselves from becoming equally developed as ourselves.


the whole world is a hypocratic joke, i cant wait for all this bullchit to come tumbling down on top of all of us idiotic humans.

the human race is just lame, bring on extinction.

[john9001]

so what happened to all the oil the US stole from iraq, did haliburton sell it to china?

[Ripsnort]

The threat assessment upon which the Bush administration acted was fundamentally sound. The only mistake in its calculus, made by the CIA and numerous foreign intelligence services, was positing that Saddam possessed stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons--as well as a concealed nuclear-weapons program--after 1991. It was, however, an honest mistake. The claim that Bush lied about Saddam's WMD is itself a lie. There is no doubt that the administration sincerely believed that Saddam retained a substantial WMD arsenal.

[DREDIOCK]

Just do a forum search for my repeated stated views on it.
I really dont feel like typing it all again. LOL


Funny thing about this war though is the rift its caused in some circles.

Including between myself and my brother in law and best friend.
We are on extreme polar opposite ends reguarding the subject and its Caused a great deal of tension between us whenever the subject is brought up

[BigGun]

Originally posted by Viking
Dollar you spend in another country you get more value in trade/services than you should because the value of the USD is inflated, largely by international trade (oil being the biggest) being done in USD.

Wow, don't have the time to discuss, but that is pretty out there on the currency theory.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by BigGun
Wow, don't have the time to discuss, but that is pretty out there on the currency theory.

Would like to hear your take on it BigGun. I found this from Time and this one from  CNN.

[Viking]

Originally posted by BigGun
Wow, don't have the time to discuss, but that is pretty out there on the currency theory.

When you find time please do discuss. I'd love to hear your perspective on the matter.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by john9001
so what happened to all the oil the US stole from iraq, did haliburton sell it to china?

The theory isn't based in theft. It is based in access to the market and military positioning in the region.

[john9001]

what does "access to the market " mean? I thought all you needed was money to buy oil.

[TimRas]

Originally posted by Dadano
Why is the idea of going into Iraq for oil looked down upon by so many?

Although I'm not among the "we", here's my view on the reasons of the Iraq war:

1. General anger and rage after 911.

2.  Score was not settled with Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. President Bush once said (on Saddam Hussein): "After all, this is a guy who tried to kill my dad at one time. "

But not because of oil.  Saudi Arabia would have been the first to be attacked if that was the real reason. Most of the 911 terrorists came from that country.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by john9001
what does "access to the market " mean? I thought all you needed was money to buy oil.

From that Time article I linked to earlier, dated Monday, Nov. 13, 2000.

Europe's dream of promoting the euro as a competitor to the U.S. dollar may get a boost from SADDAM HUSSEIN. Iraq says that from now on, it wants payments for its oil in euros, despite the fact that the battered European currency unit, which used to be worth quite a bit more than $1, has dropped to about 82[cents]. Iraq says it will no longer accept dollars for oil because it does not want to deal "in the currency of the enemy."
The move hurts Iraq, the U.N. and the countries receiving reparations. So why is Saddam doing it? Diplomatic sources say switching to the euro will favor European suppliers over U.S. ones in competing for Iraqi contracts, and the p.r. boost that Baghdad would probably get in Europe would be another plus.

[Gryffin]

Originally posted by rpm
Venezuela didn't attack us on 9/11.

Neither did Iraq

[Hap]

Originally posted by Gryffin
Neither did Iraq

Neocon little emperors.

The left owned by amoralists.

The right owned by amoralists.