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Offline Gunthr

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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2007, 09:06:41 PM »
MT, do you have an opinion as to why liberal radio talk shows have generally been unsuccessful in the first place?
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2007, 09:31:32 PM »
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Funny Conservatives seem to fail to understand the supply and demand as well. As I posted in the other thread..

The Conservatives are all for freedom of speech as long as it's them doing the speaking.  However thanks to the Conservatives and their protesting of the FCC some people can no longer listen to what they weant to, with out paying a subscription fee.

There are obviously people whom wanted to hear shock jock style radio with reasonable limitations. Thanks to a small group of people in this country we no longer have that ability.



 The liberals are aslo all for for freedom of speech. Unless they dont agree with what you say.


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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2007, 09:46:22 PM »
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News was never supposed to be a profit making venture. Stations were allocated portions of the public airways and in exchange they were asked to provide news as a public service. Try to remember what the news was like prior to 1985 (or whenever the fairness doctrine was repealed). I'm pretty sure it was better.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2007, 09:50:43 PM »
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My lord, man.  Are you actually comparing regulation of free speech to regulation of air traffic?

One is a violation of a basic constitutional right and opens a Pandora's Box of governmental regulation and is totally unnecessary.  The other must be regulated to prevent accidents and loss of life.

Two entirely different things altogether.


Free speech?

No one wants to curtail free speech.  The airwaves belong to the people, not to Clear Channel. Free speech should not be limited to the highest bidder or the highest ratings.

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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2007, 10:04:44 PM »
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Free speech should not be limited to the highest bidder or the highest ratings. - MT

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actually, there is free speech in media right now.  there are so many more outlets now for differing view points that it is dishonest to say that free speech is hindered by the success of conservative talk radio.  there is tv, newspapers, the internet, sattalite radio, books, movies, and even our education institutions, which as you know are biased to the liberal end of the political spectrum.

btw, MT...  do you have an opinion as to why liberal talk radio has not been as successful as conservative talk radio?
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2007, 10:06:49 PM »
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Free speech?

No one wants to curtail free speech.  The airwaves belong to the people, not to Clear Channel. Free speech should not be limited to the highest bidder or the highest ratings.


And it isn't. Its capitalism driven by consumer demand. You get investers, start your own radio program, if the public listens, you get sponsors, sell air time. That's how its supposed to work.

Government should not be balancing political airwaves because they think its better for us. WE, the people, as consumers, should decide.  Air America showed us that WE, the people, don't want progressive (liberal) airwaves at this time.  Try again.

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2007, 10:08:46 PM »
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Free speech?

No one wants to curtail free speech.  The airwaves belong to the people, not to Clear Channel. Free speech should not be limited to the highest bidder or the highest ratings.


"The People", as you say, could have made Air America a huge success.  Unfortunately for a couple of hack comedians, no one wanted to hear their political bilge either.  "The People" have spoken.

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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2007, 10:16:39 PM »
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No one wants to curtail free speech.


I agree....mostly.

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The airwaves belong to the people, not to Clear Channel.


Thats correct...and the people like what clear channel is offering..thats why they listen and support thier sponsors.

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Free speech should not be limited to the highest bidder or the highest ratings.


It's not.....Its a free market. Air America and other "Progressive Talk Radio Stations" can't get sponsors to get into mainstream. It's not the Conservatives fault that most people would rather listen to them. Its not the conservatives fault that Business men understand what works.

I listen to Conservative talk radio everyday when I am out and about. At least some. At night when I am headed home from work , the station I listen to mainly goes away. So , for the last 20 minutes or so of my ride home I listen to "Progressive talk radio" to hear the "other" side. John elliot is who is on now. The calls and the over all format doesn't have the same feel as the conservative shows I listen to.

It seems to me...and this is JUST my opinion....that they HATE conservatives and have nothing but contempt for anything republican or related to Bush. ANd its more vitriolic in thier speech than in Conservative.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2007, 10:35:02 PM »
Just for the record, I do not listen to talk radio. Stopped listening to Rush in 1997, his act was turning into comedy gold.

I will occasionally listen to a Kiro 570 local radio show that hosts John Carlson and Schram (a conservative and a liberal) simotaneously and listen to them duke it out. :aok   Listening to the liberal Schram on the air solidifies my disgust for liberals in this country.

At its peak in the 1960's and early 70's, we've experimented with drugs, free love, guilt free divorce, changes in child rearing....all of which have led us to declining test scores, higher teen pregnancy rates, out of wedlock births, single parent families.  Its time we look at what we've brought about over the last 50 years, and rethink how fast we want to rush into the next set of social changes...."progressive" social changes have had their run and its a failure.

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2007, 11:01:38 PM »
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btw, MT...  do you have an opinion as to why liberal talk radio has not been as successful as conservative talk radio?


Not really. I think it is an interesting phenomenon though. It is surely not based on the demographics of the Country as a whole. The last 2 elections have shown that there should be a nearly equal number of listeners to either camp. Maybe it is just that conservatives blazed the trail and have a stranglehold on the market.

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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2007, 11:05:19 PM »
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Maybe it is just that conservatives blazed the trail and have a stranglehold on the market.


On the other hand, maybe the survey was just flawed.
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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2007, 11:14:32 PM »
Or maybe it is because conservative talk radio has more appeal to the largest demographic group of American voters:  the moderates.  They are far more numerous than either the rabid liberals or the rabid conservatives.

By themselves, neither group has enough supporters to seize control of the market to the extent quoted in the poll.

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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2007, 11:41:52 PM »
Or it could be that "conservatives" like to listen to the sound of their own voice whining about everything under the sun being the fault of anyone but themselves while "liberals" like to listen to music.

There's a reason all that whiny tinfoil hat crap is on AM.
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2007, 11:52:14 PM »
Gee, rpm, you're GOOD!  You said that with a straight face.

Oh, almost forgot....bs.  :D

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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2007, 11:56:35 PM »
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You can listen to whatever is on in your area.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say your ticked you can't hear Stern witout paying.....I could be wrong , but didn't STERN make the decision to go to Sattelite radio?


To the tune of a half a freakin' billion bucks!  

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