The perfect punishment for street racing

[1K3]

jeeez... at least let the owners salvage the expensive car parts they bought.  Some of the parts they bought are more expensive than the car itself.

[CAP1]

i actually used to race on a regular basis on front street in philly.........but that was years ago when a 12 second car was extremely fast there......i went there to watch about a year ago, and the stupid chits were runnin 9 second track cars....they actually TRAILERED them to a parking lot, unloaded them then raced them.......this is incredibly STUPID as these cars have over 30k invested in them sometimes..............

[Grayeagle]

Last 'organized' street race I was involved in was over 200 cars, outside Victorville, October 1991. No one parked past the go line, one car was a the finish line well off the road, ..lotta races that night.. it finally broke up as the sun was coming up.

Local Sheriff cruised by a coupla times, ..told the kids to go home about 11pm or so.
Most of us weren't kids.

They stopped and chatted for awhile, one of 'em was a friend of mine who has since gone to the DEA and probably retired by now ..last I heard he was jumpin outta planes in the middle of the night somewhere. He had been in LRRP in Southeast Asia, said bein a Sheriff was boring.

-shrug-

I agree that local access is needed.. the strips available are overcrowded on any weekend evening.
Been to two test-an-tune days to get myself dialed into my Corvette.. both days were well over 100 cars, both days limited to 3 passes due to crowded staging lanes and the time it takes to prep a track after some yahoo hoses it down with his junk motor.

I will miss the days I used to spend at LACR .. it was a great place to race.

-GE aka Frank
(ya .. 'we' .. the Vette and I .. do .01 - .05 lites now.. cake..and the car runs within .01 of what I dial in at ..we ready for 2008 season brackets -evil grin-..I 'tree'd' *all* of my ricer opponents last time out ..for laffs. )

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Sure, you could crush the DUI offender's cars, but then how would the politicians get to work?

Well, they have been known to ride interns...

[lazs2]

If no one is hurt then the only penalties should be for the infractions... speeding or whatever.

No "extra" penalty needs be assesed.    a drag race could get you about 3 tickets most likely not even counting "reckless driving" enough to lose your licence.

I am very careful about who and where I race.

MT.. I was crippled by a drunk driver way back when.. long painful recovery.. I don't like drunk drivers any more than you do but crushing cars seems such a waste to everyone.

lazs

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by lazs2
If no one is hurt then the only penalties should be for the infractions... speeding or whatever.

No "extra" penalty needs be assesed.    a drag race could get you about 3 tickets most likely not even counting "reckless driving" enough to lose your licence.

I am very careful about who and where I race.

MT.. I was crippled by a drunk driver way back when.. long painful recovery.. I don't like drunk drivers any more than you do but crushing cars seems such a waste to everyone.

lazs

The extra penalties aren't for street racing.  They are for if the car is found with stolen parts in it.

[lazs2]

that is different...  there are penalties for recieving stolen goods.. I see no sense in crushing a house tho say.. if it had a stolen tv in it.

I see no need to have any extra penalties not associated with theft.

lazs

[eskimo2]

I hope they give the parts back to the original owners… for that matter it would be better to give the theft victims the entire care instead of crushing it.

[Flit]

Originally posted by 1K3
jeeez... at least let the owners salvage the expensive car parts they bought.  Some of the parts they bought are more expensive than the car itself.

 These are usually the parts that have been stolen.
 The other problem is the majority of the street racers tobay are Idiots.
 They do a major  motor swap, put in  huge sway bars so the car will "rotate", and then go race on stock brakes and pads.
 If they decide to race on a course with turns, they think that "drifting" the car is the way to go fast around the corner.
 Here's some examples of what I 've seen ( I'm a instructor at the local race track) :
 A Datsun 260 Z- Chevy 350 motor swapped in, stock brake and pads.
 A  Evo with roll cage, 4 point harness, but no anti -sub belt.
 Last year a guy rented a 350z, rolled it turn 10 and totaled it.
 The kid I rode with just this past Friday in a WRX STI - " My next upgrade is gonna be a larger anti- sway bar for the back so I can get the car to rotate in the corner". When I asked him what kind of brake pads he was running on - "Stock".
 A kid in another STI whose goal was to practice "trail braking". When I asked how many times he'd been on any track- "This is my first time".
 So I say, well, how about we learn the line first, before we worry about trail braking.
 The point is, a lot of these guy know the words, but don't understand the physics.
 They want to jerk the wheel, stomp on the gas and the brake and look down the hood at the track.
 When they shift gears my helmet slams into the seat.
 They are amazed when I take them out in my Integra GSR, that has minimal upgrades (suspension and brake pads) and see how fast I go by squeezing on the gas and brakes, and using minimal steering inputs to turn the car.
 Most of them don't understand why you should not brake in a corner at speed, or why the backend wants to come around if they even lift the throttle in a corner.
 Luckily I'm have the ability to pass on my knowledge in a way that most of them seem to understand.

[McFarland]

That is our problem, as I stated earlier, that people racing today don't know how to drive very well, let alone race driving. I was taught by the two best racers here in Tennessee, and I'm proud of it. And I still have a lot to learn. And when we race, we do it safely, we go out to the middle of nowwhere, or on a four lane highway late at night, or the interstate late at night, and then we race. And our cars are safe, we use stock pads and rotors, and discs, but we use only the best, and we turn our own discs and drums. We also have sway bars in the cars to keep them from swaying. I saw Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, and I didn't like it. That wasn't racing, that was just stupid. Racing is on a straight tack, or a very large round track.

[john9001]

you mean "Tokyo Drift" is not a ocean current in the pacific?

[Flit]

Originally posted by McFarland
That is our problem, as I stated earlier, that people racing today don't know how to drive very well, let alone race driving. I was taught by the two best racers here in Tennessee, and I'm proud of it. And I still have a lot to learn. And when we race, we do it safely, we go out to the middle of nowwhere, or on a four lane highway late at night, or the interstate late at night, and then we race. And our cars are safe, we use stock pads and rotors, and discs, but we use only the best, and we turn our own discs and drums. We also have sway bars in the cars to keep them from swaying. I saw Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, and I didn't like it. That wasn't racing, that was just stupid. Racing is on a straight tack, or a very large round track.

 If it's not a on a track, off of public roads, with safety workers, a medical team ( EMT's and a ambulance) and it's not  supervised, is not racing, it's reckless driving.

[Flit]

BTW, just for the record, I don't "Race"
 I attend HPDE's, where there is no passing without a point-by, and only in designated passing zones.

[McFarland]

Originally posted by Flit
If it's not a on a track, off of public roads, with safety workers, a medical team ( EMT's and a ambulance) and it's not  supervised, is not racing, it's reckless driving.

Supervised? It is not reckless driving, reckless driving is when you swerve all over the road because the police layed down a spike strip. And it's reckless on the police's part. We are safe, we make sure. We have a guy down the road watching for cars, a guy down the road the other way, and we only go for 1/8 and 1/4 mile races. None of that stupid city-city junk.

[Cougar68]

There's no such thing as safe racing on a 4-lane highway or interstate at night.  All it takes is for one small thing to go wrong and someone dies.  At a track there are safety personnel on site to help immediately.  On the streets you're at the mercy of response times.