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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #195 on: August 06, 2007, 03:05:02 PM »
Thanks!
This is where the game and reality separates. The 20 minute delay gives us a window to see actual trends. I was just lucky as no way would I have guessed how far it would drop or that it would climb up past the opening price. Short selling @$6.40/share, I'd be at a big loss if not the buy to cover earlier.
WHEW!!
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« Reply #196 on: August 06, 2007, 04:59:49 PM »
DaaaaaaaaaM

Not Worthy!!!

SaburoS someone  *cough, cough* should do this for real on a permanent basis!!!!

Dude you ARE the MAN!!!  I never seen a move like that!

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« Reply #197 on: August 07, 2007, 02:33:55 AM »
Thanks!
Look at the first 3-4 weeks of my transactions/performances and you'd not be saying the same thing. A few hunches that I either wasn't patient enough, wrong limit prices, or just plain wrong in my hunches.
I just got extremely lucky in my last huge gain.

I think it would be interesting if we all formed a new game after this one but using a more realistic starting figure of $1k. It would force a more creative way of playing as well as staying away from the huge dollar stocks.
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« Reply #198 on: August 07, 2007, 03:35:21 AM »
Well. I'm definitely using the long term strategy and that's probably the wrong one for this game. Unless they discover a new layer of dead dinosaurs XOM is a gainer. APPL is an aggressive tech and has always thrived under Jobs.

In a 30 day window, it may not be the best pick. But I wish I had $10K in each 3 years ago.
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« Reply #199 on: August 07, 2007, 12:22:31 PM »
SaburoS and Donzo,

Hey guys when the game is almost over in the next days ahead you gotta teach me how you did that.  

I know nothing about "short sell" and "triggers" or "buy to cover". I would like to learn how that is done?

Thanx

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« Reply #200 on: August 07, 2007, 01:18:42 PM »
Mac,

PM me your phone number if the explaination below is not clear. There are some other points as well but too much typing for me to go into.

Let's see if I can type the explaination...

When 'short selling' at a 'limit' (the trigger), you are committing to sell a particular stock at that price (or hopefully near it) in the future.
Basically you are selling a stock you don't own yet, selling it on credit (so to speak).
You'll make this type of transaction only on those stocks you think are going to go down in value.
After you've completed your 'short sell', you'll then put in a 'buy to cover' transaction at a 'limit' (trigger) at a value you think the stock will drop at.

Let's say AAPL is trading at $146.00 and you think that it is overvalued at this time (thinking it will drop in value). You then put in a 'short sell' order of 100 (just an example) shares @$146.00 limit. As long as the price stays at $146.00 or above, the transaction will go through provided your balance/credit are good. The transaction will not take place as long as the price of the stock does not reach $146.00 or higher.

In our example, let's say the price stayed at $146.00. You have now sold 100 shares of AAPL (on credit). You are now committed to 100 x $146.00 = $14,600.00 which is now reserved for you when you finally complete your future 'buy to cover' transaction.

So you think AAPL will drop to $126.00. You put in a 'buy to cover' order of 100 shares at the $126.00 'limit'.

When the price drops to $126.00, that transaction will be triggered. As long as the value isn't bouncing wildly you should have a completed transaction at $126.00/share.

You have now bought your 100 shares you sold off earlier for $12,600.00.

The net result is you have made $2,000.00 in the above transaction.

Remember that your 'limit' pricing is a trigger in that when your stock hits that value, the transaction then gets started. If the value of your stock is changing by the second (sometimes even minute) at the time of the transaction, your end result might not be at the value you set it at.

There are other things about short selling as well, but I'll stop here. Too much text as it is.
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« Reply #201 on: August 07, 2007, 02:39:43 PM »
i stopped playing the game a while back but i wish i would have know how to use the short sell:(

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« Reply #202 on: August 07, 2007, 07:44:01 PM »
I was 29th when I made my last trade & now I'm 5th... Blind luck.
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« Reply #203 on: August 08, 2007, 12:35:24 PM »
SaburoS....WOW:O

I was eyeing LUM for a short sell but read somewhere trading had been ordered to cease for it.   Man, I wish I would have gone ahead with it.

Good job :aok

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« Reply #204 on: August 08, 2007, 12:57:15 PM »
Thanks!
Well I'm glad I didn't read what you read :D
Talk about being in the right place at the right time...
I just saw a negative report on LUM and jumped on that short sell transaction...right after it had peaked somewhat.
Pure luck.
WHEW!
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« Reply #205 on: August 08, 2007, 12:58:56 PM »
This morning I watch my 2 of my stock's tank that have been doing so so. Not great but I was expecting to move back up today like yesterday. And thus far today they have completely tanked..

Spherion Corp - SFN  
Aftermarket Technology Corp  - ATAC

I can't seem to find a purpose for the sudden fall out..

Suggestions?

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« Reply #206 on: August 08, 2007, 01:05:01 PM »
Why did you choose those stocks in the first place?
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« Reply #207 on: August 08, 2007, 01:14:45 PM »
Man I just can't get my MOJO working... been a bad few days with RL issues.

Can't focus.

I'd be lucky to hang onto the third spot at the end.

SubaroS and Donzo are way far ahead of the game.

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« Reply #208 on: August 08, 2007, 01:24:45 PM »
Ones a local company does alot of outsoursing for jobs. ATAC does the remanufacting for allison transmissions.

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« Reply #209 on: August 08, 2007, 01:49:23 PM »
Okay, but WHY did you choose those stocks?
What reports showed favorable short term growth?
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