Author Topic: Totally baffled? (Read 569 times)

humble · « **on:** June 25, 2007, 09:36:02 AM »

clueless in Phoenix .......

I went ahead and and swapped out the MB and put in a P5K-E. Did a full format on the drive and loaded just XP. I played AH last night for a couple hops and all was well. Booted this am and loaded all the updates and rebooted and AH crashes to desktop. So far all else seems well. I have this box on a seperate workgroup and havent accessed any network drives/storage. I'll go thru the stickies but I'm unaware of anything that should crash AH like that. Drivers are zeropint 84.66, memory is pc5300 OZ. I'm perplexed that the windows updates could somehow hose AH......

fuzeman · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2007, 09:49:45 AM »

It did to me awhile back, even though it was a minor detail:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189602&highlight=update

From the response that post generated I'd say it happens, maybe not regularly but often.

humble · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:35:57 AM »

I called skuzzy and he feels I picked up a trojan or worm during auto update. I normally allow auto update on install then turn it off afterward. I've never really been dinged by anything serious. My old box was set up as per skuzzies stickies on internet security but this one wasnt. I've found and fixed/cleaned plenty of stuff for friends. So far I cant find a thing (CCcleaner, hijackthis and a few others). I'm downloading adaware as I type this. I've got 6 boxes in the house on a wireless N network (this one is on the router but not on the network). Could I have a virus elsewhere thats on the local net? From what skuzzy said firewalls & anti virus are pretty much useless for most of whats out there if you have port 80 open at all.....still baffled I could catch something "over the net" without visiting a site. My computers set so active X only runs if I click the yellow bar on top of screen (explorer6.0.2900.2180)

Skuzzy · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:59:17 PM »

Is it safe to assume you have properly secured your wireless network?

humble · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2007, 01:31:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Is it safe to assume you have properly secured your wireless network?

Now normally I'd say yes, however at this point I'm making no such assumptions about anything till I'm sure I know what I think I know:).

My wireless is PSK-2 encrypted (WPA) or something to that effect. It has a password key you need to type in to access. So in that sense yes, as a side note I did have a hamachi VPN on my old box...but nothing on this current build. So far I've found nothing via any active acan or spyware/malware....

I've gone ahead and downloaded everything to a clean scanned external drive so I can load firewall modlla sun java etc before the thing even see's the internet. Only question I have is how to manually update windows or is there a way to download the desired updates seperately?

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2007, 01:47:15 PM »

just a random thought snap...

when i re install AH2 the game crashes when i try to roll a plane.

reason usually is simple, its that i have a gunsite sellected that i dont have in my folder any more.

try reverting to default gunsite then rolll a plane, might work.

DustyR · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2007, 02:07:18 PM »

I got hit approx. one year ago by a virus during and update of an 'Anti Virus' program. Go Figure.........

humble · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2007, 03:10:32 PM »

Just a stock install on a low level formatted HD...literally just windows and AH at this point (and a bizzillion AV/SW/cleaner thingies:))....

I decided on Comodo as a firewall....multiple svchost suspicious stuff and alot of inbound traffic from inside my home network...which I dont recall as normal. I shut all 6 boxes down and still have traffic showing from discrete machine addresses? as well as the router IP....

Spatula · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2007, 04:18:08 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
I shut all 6 boxes down and still have traffic showing from discrete machine addresses? as well as the router IP....

So, you're saying you've shut down everything on your wireless network except your PC and the router, and your firewall is intercepting traffic from another address on your subnet? Sounds like someone has inserted themselves in your network??
For now try the old trusted cat-5 cable and disable the wireless segment, so you know for absolute sure that you can be the only machine on your net.
I used to use comodo, but i found it keeps on forgetting which things i've okay'd in the past. I'm now using the hard-ware optimised firewall on my MOBO (forceware) which seems to work ok.
Also some routers have built in firewalls. Screw access down to a bare minimum on that if you can 1st.

humble · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2007, 04:52:09 PM »

Drive is busy reformatting, I shut everything down and had significant traffic from the router and at least a couple of other PC addresses. Guess I'll flash the router to default as well....

If router is comprimised its via internet not local traffic I think.....

Spatula · « **Reply #10 on:** June 25, 2007, 05:14:06 PM »

Do you use ADSL? Normally with ADSL the modem acts as a NAT router. Your local PCs on the network have a class C address like 192.168.1.XXX which is a totally different network to the public internet and the modem routes between them for you. What im getting at, is if your firewall on your PC is detecting inbound packets, then assuming the above setup, they must be from your local class C network not the open internet as computers on the public internet cannot 'see' your home network.
Whats your PCs IP address?? is it like the above one? or 10.1.1.1 or something? And whats the address of these inbound connections your firewall is picking up?

humble · « **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:34:05 PM »

I'm getting the internal stactic addresses I assigned. however things are more baffling still....The last few times i've tried to load AH I get hard crash to reboot and a device "stop" error on the vidio card...i've used the 84.66 and the newest XP drivers. My system is run thru twin belkin surgemaster 2's but I'm wondering if I caught a power spike...

Vulcan I think suggested a memory issue, seperate from all the other funny stuff the core of the AH issue might be memory leak? I just ran aquamark and it rippod of a 118,000+ on all stock without the dual core patch. If my VC was going or I had a memory leak/bad ram would that be possible. Current plan is to go grab a 2 gig stick of "super ram" {I can always return it} and see if that solves the problem. AH has issue offline. the Asus power monitoring utility shows all voltages rock solid in the green with no fluctuation and all temps are great for card/board/cpu etc....

I'm gonna fix it or shoot it sometime soon.....

humble · « **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:46:18 PM »

I'm running a test on the card as I type I found onliine (real-time HDR IBL. Its supposed to stress heat test nvidia cards...thing is craking along on some complex graphics at about 61C....

So card "Seems" fin and obviously no problems with crashing????

neat little program BTW