Score & Rank: Completely useless info

[hubsonfire]

I know of quite a few people maintaining at least 2 accounts. I believe there are probably many more than those that I'm aware of. Regardless of second account status, cooperative vulching between squadmates or other players is nothing new.

That being said, I think Nilsen is right to backpedal- anyone can get 60 kills per hour in a 202. It's one of the best planes in the game by a huge margin, and I wouldn't want to look like a fool suggesting that someone was doing anything untoward in the hopes of improving their ranking.

[TheDudeDVant]

Clearly I need to fly more.. haha   I'm sad cause im not on anyone's list!  
hehe

[pluck]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Clearly I need to fly more.. haha   I'm sad cause im not on anyone's list!  
hehe

you are now on my list!  

[68ROX]

Score/Rank has helped me to grow immensely.

As a retired Olympics class competitor, stats are the "smart" way to see how you can compete better and improve yourself.

As a former Casino Marketing Director, data serves to prove how well you have done, and how much better you can do it next time.

As a squad member with the 68th Lightning Lancers, score goes by the wayside and what you can do for your wingman and squadmate, and your squad is paramount.

Killing radar, ords, and troops so your other squaddies can come in to kill the town and take the base make a difference to your country.

IMOHO=TT wastes resources....furballing with no intent of taking the base wastes resources.

HOW SOON WE FORGET:  each solder, sailor, airman in WWII sole purpose was to win the war (reset)....not to get medals (score).

There are too many lone wolves in this game who want to run the game.  I saw it as a Casino Marketing Director.  

TEAM EFFORT = WIN.

Lone Wolves = Dissention.

You see dissention on this board every day.

Which are you?  Team?  Or lone wolf?

I'm on a team.



68ROX

[Toad]

Originally posted by 68ROX
IMOHO=TT wastes resources....furballing with no intent of taking the base wastes resources...

...HOW SOON WE FORGET:  each solder, sailor, airman in WWII sole purpose was to win the war (reset)....not to get medals (score).

68ROX

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Some play the game to fulfill the actual parameters that it was designed for, which is to overcome and conquer bases, and eventually the country, thus winning the war/game.
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This is a false assumption.


The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.


HiTech

[/b]



First of all, the only non-computer generated resource YOU have in the game is.... YOU.

I am not one of your resources, I am not a resource of any particular country.

You pay your $15 and be as resourceful as you like. You are absolutely wrong in thinking that anyone else has some responsiblity towards you, your squad, your country or anything else.

We are indeed individual players with individual game goals.

Read what HiTech said.

Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.

[/b]

The war winners are not on some sacred AH mission, they are not fulfilling the one, only true goal of AH. They are just players doing what they choose to do. Please allow the rest of the player base the same privilege.

Secondly, LEST WE FORGET, there are no real AH soldiers, sailors or airmen. The sole purpose is most definitely NOT to win the war or reset. Again, refer to HiTech's quote. The war is just a means to promote combat. That's all, that's it; don't try to make it more than it is.

Feel free to be part of team. Play as a group to achieve common goals.

But you are way out of line thinking that anyone else that chooses not to participate in YOUR personal goals is some sort of resource that you own that is going to waste.

You own your account and that's it.

[68ROX]

Originally posted by Toad




First of all, the only non-computer generated resource YOU have in the game is.... YOU.

I am not one of your resources, I am not a resource of any particular country.

You pay your $15 and be as resourceful as you like. You are absolutely wrong in thinking that anyone else has some responsiblity towards you, your squad, your country or anything else.

We are indeed individual players with individual game goals.

Read what HiTech said.

[/b]

HiTech isn't a player...he is the OWNER.


What you say is what you do.

Good luck with that,

Answer the question....

Are you a TEAM PLAYER or a LONE WOLF, looking for the score?



Dodging the question answers all.

68ROX

[hubsonfire]

There is more to AH than just the simple cartoon war, or working for a low rank. The way in which you phrased the question says far more than any answer Toad might have to it.

[wetrat]

Originally posted by Larry
Only thing good about the K4 is the speed. It cant turn that well and the gun is hard to hit with. Thats why it has a normal ENY. If it had three 20mms then it would a lower ENY. The only reason its "untouchable" in the right hands is because of its speed and nothing else. The tater is why its ENY is at 20. And an ENY of 20 inst a perk farmer. I am doing some farming myself trying to get atlease 1k fighter perks and I tell ya the Mossi and A8 are WAYYYY better then the K4 at getting them.

Disagree. It turns plenty well enough, and the 30's are easy to hit with once you get the hang of it (still get strings of bad luck with them tho.. slow ROF and all..). I seem to recall fighting some guy who likes to fly the 109F and pwning him turning and whatnot at low speeds.... who could that have been? K4 turns adequately if you're good enough with angles and overshoots, or just know when it's time to nose-up and hang on your prop.


And to falcntard... excuse me? Flying the K4 to farm perks/rank? I'm afraid not, son. I fly the K4 because I've always flown the G10/K4. It's what I enjoy, what I'm most comfortable in, and what I'm best in. It's also a challenge if you like pulling angles with spits at low speeds. The fact that not much stuff can run away is kinda nice, too.

But whatever, I'm pretty much retired anyway. Stick is broken.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by 68ROX


Answer the question....

Are you a TEAM PLAYER or a LONE WOLF, looking for the score?



Dodging the question answers all.

68ROX

Here's a clue for yah....

You don't have to be a "win the war" kinda guy to be a team player. Additionally, you don't have to be a score monkey to be a lone wolf.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by 68ROX
IMOHO=TT wastes resources....furballing with no intent of taking the base wastes resources.

HOW SOON WE FORGET:  each solder, sailor, airman in WWII sole purpose was to win the war (reset)....not to get medals (score).

There are too many lone wolves in this game who want to run the game.  I saw it as a Casino Marketing Director.  

TEAM EFFORT = WIN.

Lone Wolves = Dissention.

You see dissention on this board every day.

Which are you?  Team?  Or lone wolf?

I'm on a team.



68ROX

This isn't a war, it's a game.  The point of a game is to win.

Herein lies the dichotomy.  There are many ways to win in this game.

Win the fight
Win the battle
Win the war
Win the stat
Win the catagory score
Win the overall score

Fortunately, relative to a game, this allows for a lot of winners every day and every camp.  In fact almost everyone can come away feeling like a winner at least once in a while.  Furthermore, no one type of win is generally more or less appealing to the winner.  Each player naturally gravitates to the form of winning that they have the most success with.

Do you want to deny people these small joys?  It sounds like you do.  In your opinion, if you dont win the war you're a loser right?

Lone wolf or team player?  I'm a winner.  It's a game.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Citabria
guess I should comment on my rank dweebery since my name is on the list and people are discussing our muppet squad

I officially blame everyone else in my squad for all of it and take no responsibility for anything.

I blame wetrat and dolfo entirely.
with dolfo moving wetrat decided to make a half hearted attempt to get a high fighter rank and I figured what the hell I will try to since I havent score potatod in years. getting overall rank isnt fun for me but I like to get high Kill/death and gunnery %, kill/time and kill/sortie

Zazen is responsible for the high kill/death ratios in our squad with all his crazy theories on survivalism being an enjoyable gameplay style for those that have burned out playing oblivion and are doing a halfway job of roll playing in aces high.


as for the 109k4 that is skyrocks fault and I take no responsibility for him picking the 109k4 as our current squad ride despite the fact that I suggested it to him.

     





Mark

[Toad]

Originally posted by 68ROX
HiTech isn't a player...he is the OWNER.[/b]

Actually, he is the owner, programmer, player and most importantly DESIGNER.

He does play with several different accounts/names.

I'll post this for you again, as you clearly don't get it.

The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.[/size]


HiTech

[/b]

You're personal crusade to win the cartoon war for your cartoon country is no more and no less justified, right, correct, holy, ordained or sacred than any other player's personal game goal.

You can pretend that isn't so and you can believe it but that doesn't mean anyone else has to believe it. Delude yourself all you like; I don't care. The game's designer has clearly stated it is just not so and that's good enough for me.

Are you a TEAM PLAYER or a LONE WOLF, looking for the score?

[/b]

I switch teams to the low numbered side routinely. I don't care a whit about score. I have thousands and thousands of perk points and never fly perk rides. Winning the war means absolutely nothing to me. I will joyfully up at a capped field if it looks like the possiblililty of a good fight exists.

I play for two things and two things only:

1) The Fight.

My goal every time I log in is to find some decent A2A cartoon combat. Doesn't always happen, but that's the goal. Country doesn't matter, war doesn't matter, capture doesn't matter...the FIGHT is the thing. (Now, if by shooting down planes it helps people like you capture the base, good for you. But you should absolutely not think that's why I'm there. I am not one of your resources. )

2) To hang out, joke, talk about life with a few very select people as we rove around looking for a good FIGHT. In short, my second goal is to spend some online time with good friends of many years standing, having fun shooting down cartoon airplanes.

Now go play the game your way. But please be mature enough to realize that not everyone subscribes to your gaming philosophy, including the game's designer. Please be considerate enough to realize that your way is not the only way to play. Please be intelligent enough to realize that other players have no contractual obligation to you; other players are not your resources.



In closing, I'll point out that when the furball/warwinner arguments break out there are always accusations that one side or the other is trying to make people "play their way".

I think that 68Rox, in accordance with long standing warwinner tradition, has once again made it clear which side tries to make the other side "play their way".

Resources  

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Toad
Actually, he is the owner, programmer, player and most importantly DESIGNER.

He does play with several different accounts/names.

I'll post this for you again, as you clearly don't get it.

You're personal crusade to win the cartoon war for your cartoon country is no more and no less justified, right, correct, holy, ordained or sacred than any other player's personal game goal.

You can pretend that isn't so and you can believe it but that doesn't mean anyone else has to believe it. Delude yourself all you like; I don't care. The game's designer has clearly stated it is just not so and that's good enough for me.

I switch teams to the low numbered side routinely. I don't care a whit about score. I have thousands and thousands of perk points and never fly perk rides. Winning the war means absolutely nothing to me. I will joyfully up at a capped field if it looks like the possiblililty of a good fight exists.

I play for two things and two things only:

1) The Fight.

My goal every time I log in is to find some decent A2A cartoon combat. Doesn't always happen, but that's the goal. Country doesn't matter, war doesn't matter, capture doesn't matter...the FIGHT is the thing. (Now, if by shooting down planes it helps people like you capture the base, good for you. But you should absolutely not think that's why I'm there. I am not one of your resources. )

2) To hang out, joke, talk about life with a few very select people as we rove around looking for a good FIGHT. In short, my second goal is to spend some online time with good friends of many years standing, having fun shooting down cartoon airplanes.

Now go play the game your way. But please be mature enough to realize that not everyone subscribes to your gaming philosophy, including the game's designer. Please be considerate enough to realize that your way is not the only way to play. Please be intelligent enough to realize that other players have no contractual obligation to you; other players are not your resources.


In closing, I'll point out that when the furball/warwinner arguments break out there are always accusations that one side or the other is trying to make people "play their way".

I think that 68Rox, in accordance with long standing warwinner tradition, has once again made it clear which side tries to make the other side "play their way".

Resources  

Eloquently stated and my feelings exactly Toad.   Good post bro!  <> and see ya in the MA soon.

[Hazzer]

what Toad said is spot on,and take part in the capture part of the game .

[Hazzer]

oops, I meant to say I enjoy the capture element of the game,but ppl should fly how they like,and give the finger to those who suggest they fly otherwise.