Freedom Of Speech Overturned

[GtoRA2]

Before some of you wet yourselves with anti-bush hate splooge go read the case Myelo posted.


It was infact on the sidewalk, in front of the school at a school event.

That is unless you want the wacko lefty circle jerk to continue.

[Holden McGroin]

For those of you who don't want to read the decision, the key point AFAIAC is:

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the opinion of the
Court.

At a school-sanctioned and school-supervised event, a
high school principal saw some of her students unfurl a
large banner conveying a message she reasonably regarded
as promoting illegal drug use. Consistent with
established school policy prohibiting such messages at
school events, the principal directed the students to take
down the banner. One student—among those who had
brought the banner to the event—refused to do so. The
principal confiscated the banner and later suspended the
student.

Students at a high school are minors.  Minors are not, because of their immaturity, full citizens, they are in the custody of parents. Certain parental rights and responsibilities are tranferred to the school while the child attends and that includes enforcing dicipline.

[Eagler]

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
It was infact on the sidewalk, in front of the school at a school event.

Don't let something like the facts get in the way, it was across the street from the school, at an olympic torch run (which the school happened to have let out of classes to let kids watch), not quite a school event.

[rpm]

Play "it's a troll" all you want. This is a sad day for freedom and one giant leap for censorship.

He was not on school property. He was not on a field trip. He was not under the supervision of any member of the faculty.

He was standing on a public sidewalk.

Up next, No Thought Zones...

[VOR]

Does this thread finally prove that Dems are antagonist dopers and Repubs are Nazis?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by rpm
Play "it's a troll" all you want. This is a sad day for freedom and one giant leap for censorship.

He was not on school property. He was not on a field trip. He was not under the supervision of any member of the faculty.

He was standing on a public sidewalk.

Up next, No Thought Zones...

So your saying that SCOTUS not only got the constitution wrong, but were wrong on the basic facts of the case?

A school sanctioned activity, (Which is what SCOTUS says it was and even the 9th Circuit agreed with that) usually does not mean that "He was not under the supervision of any member of the faculty."

[rpm]

He was NOT IN SCHOOL. What part of that is hard to understand? The position the majority took was the procecutions assessment that anytime during school hours your children are property of the school and subject to any and all whims of the district whether in class or not.

The school is now a police force with unlimited jurisdiction.

[VOR]

Originally posted by rpm
The school is now a police force with unlimited jurisdiction.

Said who?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by rpm
He was NOT IN SCHOOL. What part of that is hard to understand?

If a school sanctions a prom at the local hotels ballroom, then have no responsibility for it?

The students are not in school, they are not on school property...

[rpm]

Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If a school sanctions a prom at the local hotels ballroom, then have no responsibility for it?

The students are not in school, they are not on school property...

They are under the supervision of faculty. If a kid does not go to the prom but is hit by a car while standing across the street from the hotel is the school responsable for him?

[Holden McGroin]

So you are saying that this banner had nothing to do with the sanctioned activity and just happened to be there by coincidence....

I mean what are the odds?

On January 24, 2002, the Olympic Torch Relay passed
through Juneau, Alaska, on its way to the winter games in
Salt Lake City, Utah. The torchbearers were to proceed
along a street in front of Juneau-Douglas High School
(JDHS) while school was in session.  Petitioner Deborah
Morse, the school principal, decided to permit staff and
students to participate in the Torch Relay as an approved
social event or class trip. App. 22–23. Students were
allowed to leave class to observe the relay from either side
of the street. Teachers and administrative officials monitored
the students’ actions.  

[VOR]

I remember when I was in high school, I could get into trouble if I was caught smoking on the way to or from school. I always thought that was silly because I wasn't on school grounds or at a school function. Apparently, even back then, the school was responsible for me while I was coming or going to school or some function of the school.

I had some trouble once when I set off a string of firecrackers on the way to school as well. When I got home, my parents didn't phone up the ACLU and complain that my right to artistically express myself with my light and sound show had been stifled. They actually got miffed that I was out in public acting like an bellybutton and took the principal's side. I was outraged, of course. It's a free country, isn't it?

This was way before teh boosh.

[rpm]

Hence the phrase "freedom of speech". This is the United States, not Tiananmen Square.

Holden, you are convieniently ignoring the fact the kid was not in school that day. He wasn't in the class that was given permission to go outside.