The good old days

[sullie363]

Yeah, I could see how hard it would be to avoid a field being vulched.

Since many of you seem to be referencing it, I'll clear something up.  The only reason bish have such high numbers in the screen is because it was squad night for a number of the larger squads.  If I had taken the screen on Sunday instead of Monday, we would all be looking at massive Rook numbers.  Aside from the couple hours a week where one side may have significantly higher numbers from combined squad ops, all three sides were pretty evenly balanced with their periodic ups and downs.

[jhookt]

anyone ever get the feeling that nothing will ever be as good as it once was?

[TalonX]

You are complaining about the total numbers.....truth is, they were often spread over a huge terrain, rendering the same density we have today.

I did prefer the old maps, however...And wish we had more maps now.....  The need to concentrate a few players to get the right density has left us without much variation......zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzz

[Krusty]

Originally posted by TalonX
You are complaining about the total numbers.....truth is, they were often spread over a huge terrain, rendering the same density we have today.

Er... What universe were you flying in? There were only 2 fights, and sometimes 3 if the bigger countries stopped ganging the small one enough to fight each other. Instead of being over 1 field (as now) the "fight" was one massive furball over 3-4 sectors (so instead of 1 field being ganged, 4 were simultaneously, all next to each other) kind of like there were too many players in one area so they spilled over to the next closest field, then again, then again, but they were all part of the same horde.

Lusche: I'm not counting the EWA and MWA. In my opinion both of those should be closed. If not then all EW planes should be enabled in MW and they should be merged. Then all rank and stats should be disabled from that server. I'm talking about just the post-split late war arenas. Orange and Blue.


EDIT: P.S. I'm in total agreement that we need more maps. I'm getting sick of the same AH Beta-era maps being recycled ad nauseum. The problem is that resets are nearly impossible now, and resets used to change the maps 2-3 times a week.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Krusty
Lusche: I'm not counting the EWA and MWA. In my opinion both of those should be closed.

Why? What would be improved by that?

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Lusche
Why? What would be improved by that?

Aside from the stats-padding milkrunners, there are less than 10 folks per side in EWA and MWA. Often the milk runners have made it so that one country has no "front line" with the other two. Many times I've gone into one of them to find 9 players (total) on. The only ones actually fighting are on the bish/rook front, but the knits (which I'm on in this example) don't have a frontline airfield within 5 sectors of the fight, because of the milk runners or because of other reasons.

Removing them puts the action back into the LWAs (where you can still fly EW planes). Merging them boosts the numbers, creating better chances of actually getting a fight you can fly to (and you can still fly EW planes).

Either case we get rid of the EW. Both cases we get rid of stat-potato milkrunners. Either case we increase the chances of a fight regardless of which server you log into.


The AvA is another matter, though

[Meatwad]

I miss the Good ol days

Hell I even miss playing AH1's main arena

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Krusty
Aside from the stats-padding milkrunners, there are less than 10 folks per side in EWA and MWA. Often the milk runners have made it so that one country has no "front line" with the other two. Many times I've gone into one of them to find 9 players (total) on. The only ones actually fighting are on the bish/rook front, but the knits (which I'm on in this example) don't have a frontline airfield within 5 sectors of the fight, because of the milk runners or because of other reasons.

Removing them puts the action back into the LWAs (where you can still fly EW planes). Merging them boosts the numbers, creating better chances of actually getting a fight you can fly to (and you can still fly EW planes).

Either case we get rid of the EW. Both cases we get rid of stat-potato milkrunners. Either case we increase the chances of a fight regardless of which server you log into.


The AvA is another matter, though

I don't see how putting 10-30 people back into the 2 LWA's will "put any action back there". It certainly won't increase the chances of a fight in the LWA much.
It just kills the fun for that few people actually enjoying fighting there, but doesn't enhance the fun of the "majority" in the Late War Arenas

Besides that, milkrunners there do not harm anyone, and if you just don't want them to pad their scores there (only works to a certain degree though), just score the arenas seperately (which would have even a few bonus effects, in my opinion)

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Amen brother !!!  


And the "End of Days" decended upon AH on 12-02-2002 when they announced the "Contest".

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A day that will live in infamy!


ack-ack

[TequilaChaser]

The only way you will get the "play for Score" players to work at it more than milk is have each individual arena set up with its own scores/stats......

I would not even tie the (2) LW arenas scoreing system together......

and while I am thinking about it...for some unknown reason at that.......

let the Dueling Arena have its own scoring and Stats as well........

and bring back Scoring and stats for individual players to the SE Arena also.....

or at least turn on Stats only for each individual Arena...... and do away with the instant .ef you bailed back to the tower deal...........if a person gets shot down, they either should ride her all the way in.......or bail out and go SPLAT.......unless of course they open the chute   why even have a chute and a command to open it if you going to let people instantly .ef to the tower


and dammit all, we need scoring in the TA as well......

[Lusche]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
The only way you will get the "play for Score" players to work at it more than milk is have each individual arena set up with its own scores/stats......

I would not even tie the (2) LW arenas scoreing system together......
 

I would tie them together, because often it's not your choice to play in a specific one but the servers (arena cap) Also, which of the two arenas happens to be the almost empty one at non-peak times changes alot.
So IMHO splitting scores between those two LW Arenas wouldn't make that much sense.

[whiteman]

Originally posted by Husky01
What I care about are the maps.

Thats the first thing i noticed when i saw the pic, nice map wish i were around then to play it. Only been around since Nov 06 but i've noticed in that short time the map selection has become uninspiring. Same fight day after day, week after week.

[sullie363]

Having stats specific to each arena only gets rid of the small problem, if it even is a problem, of people milkrunning in EW.  But as long as HT is committed to having stats, which in theory should show a certain level of skill, there isn't that strong of a case to not allow a player to carry his/her rank to any of the MAs.  Since it is often difficult to always fly in the same LW arena due to player caps, not being able to maintain the same set of stats wouldn't seem fair.  Their accuracy and relevance would totally go out the window even more than they are already.

[yanksfan]

Originally posted by Lusche
I don't see how putting 10-30 people back into the 2 LWA's will "put any action back there". It certainly won't increase the chances of a fight in the LWA much.
It just kills the fun for that few people actually enjoying fighting there, but doesn't enhance the fun of the "majority" in the Late War Arenas

Besides that, milkrunners there do not harm anyone, and if you just don't want them to pad their scores there (only works to a certain degree though), just score the arenas seperately (which would have even a few bonus effects, in my opinion)

Well put, I agree completely.

I really think score means nothing but at least it would put early war and mid war into an AvA type of scenario, maybe cut EW and MW down to two sides also.

[Hoarach]

The ol' days of AH1 where furball was the main theme and few took bases.  Good sticks were plentiful and could find a good size furball anywhere on those large MA maps.