Now the Real Fun Starts

[lazs2]

the foremen and site managers need to go to jail.   the new ones won't hire illegals.

The penalty needs to be jail time.  It won't take long for the foremen and site managers to realize that jail is not attractive and... snitch off the owner.

It is not complex.  the excuses you make are just that.

It will also snowball... those employers who obey the law will have an interest in turning in the employers who don't.

I believe it is an almost perfect solution...  100%.. it is certainly much much better than anything you can come up with.  even if it only cut the problem in half...  half way there is better than anything I have seen offered so far.

lazs

[AKIron]

Little doubt you are right about how to stop illegal immigration lazs. The problem is that our government officials do not want to stop it. How do we fix that?

[Speed55]

Jail time, and a good sized fine will straighten out alot of people.

The jail time to scare some sense into them, and the fine to hit them where it hurts the most.   Maybe the fine could be based on what a normal worker is supposed to get paid for a 6 month period.  


All the money from the fines go to the border patrol to beef up the force.

[lazs2]

ak.. I don't know.. I do know that millions of people called their representitives and got the amnesty for illegal aliens bill defeated.

I have written to my represenitives to give my solution.  I have said that enforcement of the laws is their duty..

They write back that I am wrong.. that enforcing the law will not work.. One said that 70% of the employers who were arrested had the jury let them go.

They tell me that the only real solution is to simply ignore the problem except to help any illegal with money and health care and schooling and feel lucky we had a chance to make the world a little better place for the less fortunate.

That there is no solution.   That there doesn't need to be a solution..  everything is fine except we don't have enough water stations for "immigrants" who might get thirsty coming here to help us.   That not enough spanish is spoken here and that not enough spanish is the problem..   that the schools need more money to educate the "immigrants" in their native tounge.

but... if we don't call and write them then I guess we will never know if we can make a difference.

lazs

[AKIron]

I will admit to being lazy in writing my elected representatives. I will change my attitude in this regard in the next few months and dust off my old fashioned ball point pen.



Well, maybe I'll just buy some more printer paper.

[storch]

I was speaking with a lady that works for Lincoln Diaz-Balart.  she claims that they reckon that for every letter written there are about 1000 people who hold a similar opinion as the one expressed in the letter written, unless it's a highly publicized issue then they go by the weight in pounds of mail and faxes they receive.  snail mail is the best way to get those nice folk's attention.

[AKIron]

Storch, is your Fred Thompson quote genuine?

He is a relative new comer to national politics from my perspective. I've read that his critic's most severe attack is that he is lazy. That undoubtedly will change with his hat now in the ring. He does look a bit tired to me but that might not be a bad thing.

[storch]

Originally posted by AKIron
Storch, is your Fred Thompson quote genuine?

He is a relative new comer to national politics from my perspective. I've read that his critic's most severe attack is that he is lazy. That undoubtedly will change with his hat now in the ring. He does look a bit tired to me but that might not be a bad thing.

you will find that he is a long time beltway insider, going back to 1967.  he was co-chief counsel to the senate watergate committee.  he was responsible for the question that brought down president nixon.  the question was asked by sen howard baker but it was thompson that thunk it first "what did the president know and when did he know it?"

he also posed this question to alexander butterfield, "are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the oval office of the president?"

he also worked as a lobbyist in DC from 1975 until 1990 IIRC

he's a brilliant man and yes the quotation is really his.

[FrodeMk3]

lasz is right, about both the employers and the laws not being enforced. Sadly, so it seems.

The response he got in his letter, shows what is probably the most underlying truth.

It's not the way his rep's response is worded , it's the point of why.

They might have agreed with lasz, and stated what they would do...If lasz had included a 5 or 6-digit figure "campaign donation" check with his letter.

You have to face facts...business lobbies at every level, and the dollars scream louder than the voices of the constituency.

lasz's rep( or more likely the rep's jr. assistant) wrote that response knowing it was lame, but that there was no way in hell that they would endanger the contribution's that all the Farming Corp.'s, or any of the businesses', for that matter.

Both parties(Dem's and Repub's) Groom their interns that hope to gain office, to be receptive to money, and to hell with their morals. They know how to say the right things to get elected, and once they're in office, they just start milking the cash cow.

Don't quit writing letters, by any means...maybe, just maybe, it will wind up in the hands of someone who takes political office with the idea of a better U.S., and not a better income.


P.S. I know, shooting Illegals' trying to cross the border has been declared a big no-no.

But, I love to jugs full of water out in the desert with my Mini-14!
.223 40-grain hollowpoints' send water everywhere!

[McFarland]

What needs to be done is:
A. Enforce current border laws.
B. Stop them from coming over here by drawing a line down the border and posting a machine gun turret every 50 ft.
C. Kick out the legislators who are in it for money.
D. Get rid of the large time farmers and put back into place many small farmers that work for themselves.
E. Start making America what it was 50 years ago. Full of active, smart Americans who work hard and defend their country.