Author Topic: new squad (Read 2034 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #30 on:** July 05, 2007, 07:29:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Bosco123
OMG

do you know how wars are ended?

sir if you think that this is superflous then think again

You aren't too swift are ya?

BTW, it's "Superfluous". See Geary, I'm getting better on the injury side of things.

Geary420 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:05:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Bosco123
what are you talking about I had him in a corner

I LOL'd. Someone painted themselves into a corner, but it sure wasnt Lusche.

Mash, it wasn't a dig at you I let it slide at first but after it got requoted twice I had to point it out. Notice my

This thread FTW!!!!!!1!!!1111111

storch · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:08:40 PM »

congratulations JETSOM, good luck with your new squad.

Bosco123 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:14:10 PM »

here this will end it all:

independece day is not july 4 it is july 3 because the commitee of style went to work on july first. for those who do not know what the commitee of style is it is the people ho wrote the decloration of indepedence. Anyways, they completed the document in two days they only call july 4 independece day because it was the final copy everyone signed the day before.

this is just the case because I have justified the fact that everybody signed the treaty on may 7, they sent it to berlin and that was the final copy.

that is why they call erich hartmanns last kill not the last kill.

gpwurzel · « **Reply #34 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:21:41 PM »

Sorry fella, your incorrect. It takes time for orders to be disseminated for cessation of hostilities, hence nominating a date and time in the surrender documents. That is the date and time of the end of wwII.

Wurzel

Bosco123 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:31:21 PM »

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Sorry fella, your incorrect. It takes time for orders to be disseminated for cessation of hostilities, hence nominating a date and time in the surrender documents. That is the date and time of the end of wwII.

Wurzel

well if you all think that then go ahead belive what you will but im sure almost positive that erich hartmann did not get his last kill

Lusche · « **Reply #36 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:36:25 PM »

gpwurzel · « **Reply #37 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:37:58 PM »

Bosco, did some further digging, found this link, which mentions the last kill for hartmann......dunno if it helps or not.

Wurzel

Erich Hartmann's last kill

Bosco123 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:48:36 PM »

not helping not enough info on anything you can still question that

Lusche · « **Reply #39 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:54:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Bosco123
not helping not enough info on anything you can still question that

Yep, like you can question official documents stating exact date & time of WWII end in Europe...

I'm just not sure yet if you are only stubbornly trolling or if you REALLY believe what you are saying.

Or like a famous General once ago said:

Bosco123 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 05, 2007, 09:05:09 PM »

well here we go this is stright from erich hartmann himself:

The Final Interview with Erich Hartmann

Q: How did you end up in Soviet custody?

A: On 8 May 1945 I took off at around 0800 hours from my field in Czechoslo-
vakia going to Bruenn. My wingman and I saw eight Yaks below us. I shot one
down and that was my last victory. I decided not to attack the others once I
saw that there were twelve Mustangs on the scene above me. My wingman
and I headed for the deck where the smoke of the bombing could hide us. We
pulled through the smoke and saw once again the two allies fighting each
other above us. Incredible! Well we landed at the field and were told that the
war was over.I must say that during the war I never disobeyed an order, but
when General Seidemann ordered me and Graf to fly to the British sector and
surrender to avoid the Russians, with the rest of the wing to surrender to the
Soviets. I could not leave my men. That would have been bad leadership.
There was a large bounty on my head, much like Ruedel.

now if you read carefully then you can tell what I mean by this may have been a bogus kill he said as soon as he landed the guy told him that the war was over that is why I think that his kill is not real

ink · « **Reply #41 on:** July 05, 2007, 09:27:36 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
congratulations JETSOM, good luck with your new squad.

THANK YA

Shifty · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:41:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Bosco123

In the late morning of May 8, 1945, Hptm.Hartmann led the Schwarm(flight) over Czechoslovakia to spot the advancing Russian troops.He saw a Soviet Yak fighter performing aerobatics over the town of Brunn, apparently in celebration of the pending Russian victory.Erich struck quickly and the hapless aerobat became his 352nd victory.

The key word here is pending, meaning the war was not yet over. The information you posted even confirms the war had not ended yet.

Also I'm sure the Russian pilot if he could speak from the grave would tell you the kill was very real.

Bosco123 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:33:11 AM »

but you know that it is already over even if it is pending as the germans could not fight anymore so it wasn't pending

Lusche · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2007, 12:06:13 PM »

Ok. Last try. Fact vs Fiction. Excerpt from the Surrender Document (link provided in earlier post):

The German High Command will at once issue orders to all German military, naval and air authorties and to all forces under German control to cease active operations at =2301= hours Central European time on = 8 May = and to remain in the positions occupied at that time.

Until that hour, they could. And did.