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Offline Speed55

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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2007, 08:19:42 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj6QLJn_o88

Link is to a 13 second clip of a hammerhead by pilot Jim Leroy.
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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2007, 09:42:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Hazard69
Okay, I downloaded and saw both films, and came to the following conclusion:
I MUST BE THICK :o :D

I really can't seem to tell the difference here, I am obviously not looking at something. Both the maneuvers appear to me as the same thing. Go up, slow down, apply full rudder and opposite aileron when slow enough to bring the nose down. I can see that Widewing didn't start until he was almost standing still and so had a dramatically smaller radius..............

So again I ask, what is the difference?

BTW widewing, a few questions arise in my head:
1. Did you cut throttle?(doesn't show in film)
2. Did you extend flaps?(doesn't show in film)
3. I know you must have applied full rudder and some opposite aileron roll, but did you also apply some differential throttle?(whenever I try that I go around so fast instead of doing a 180, I end up doing a 270 with 90 roll)


I think that move is a deciding move that will make or break ya.....If you execute it and then miss ( or find a new con close:O ), you're in hot soup!:eek:

Thanks again!:aok :aok


The difference is in the radius of the reversal. A wingover has a larger radius, several times the wingspan of the aircraft. A hammerhead has the entire reversal within the radius of the wingspan. A hammerhead is done at a lower speed than a wingover.

Now, as to your questions,
1. I gradually eased off power as I approached the the top of the climb.
2. I did not use flaps.
3. I used full left rudder with minimal aileron input.

My regards,

Widewing
My regards,

Widewing

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Offline Hazard69

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 10:17:50 AM »
Thanks very much Widewing!:aok

Now to put that into practice:eek: ........free kills anyone?:D:p:D
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Offline B@tfinkV

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 10:59:11 AM »
the differences are minimal, i agree hazard, but i clearly see the hammerhead widewing posted being far closer to the aerobatic version i've seen real pilots perform. the transition from nose up to nose down is almost in the blink of an eye for the p38 clip.
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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2007, 03:14:07 PM »
Here is a Pitts doing a hammerhead at an airshow ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj6QLJn_o88

Helicoptes can do hammerheads too ... :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5lHgsX7LQ
« Last Edit: July 05, 2007, 03:18:51 PM by SlapShot »
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Offline B@tfinkV

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2007, 07:16:47 PM »
that pitts hammer head looks tight as a duck arse.
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Offline DoLbY

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2007, 04:14:16 AM »
I think this one is well covered :aok

Offline DoLbY

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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2007, 04:30:44 AM »
I made a suggestion in the wishlist but I really think it would help out - I wasn't sure if it would be to have it in here or the wishlist so I put it there instead :)


called ''moves/acm"

Offline DoLbY

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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2007, 07:23:23 AM »
disregard idea - didn't realize it was covered already