I've been flying the K4 for a week myself and am slowly getting more confident and aggressive, but I can't handle the spits like everyone is talking about. I slow them down turning with them and then go vert. when I nose back down they are there shooting me in the face nose up. They climb darn near as well VIII"s, XVI's, and XIV's, im talking about and turn better, have comparable acceleration, and of course they can reach out and touch you with the hispanos, if I don't break contact soon enough. Of course Im not good enough yet with the spud to sell my angles for a shot because I end up dead. Ene con high angle shot traveling 200 mph or greater will almost always fly through my slow "spud spray" untouched. All this talk of kickin XVI's azzes with the K4 has me excited about the possibilities, but i'am not convinced yet. I fly with combat trim off and make constant adjustments, and I'am doing much better. I will take the advice of one of the posters and only fire the spud instead of the full battery because it has been very confusing trying to find your shooting eye, otherwise I just get a bunch of assists! Pony's and the big blue planes etc are fun to tangle with but the big engined spits are giving me problems. So yeah, I could use some advice just like Gian is asking for ie films etc from you more experienced drivers out there. I know I'll get better shooting etc with time but anything that can be added to hasten the learning curve would be much appreciated Thanx.