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« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2007, 06:30:26 PM »
Nilsen, you beat me to it.

"From Times OnlineJuly 18, 2007

RAF scrambles to intercept Russian bombers"

First to intercept and escort were Norwegian F16's. Seems that Boroda has powerful friends indeed. Well, happy times Russia, now the western arms manufacturers and their spokesmen, notably those who deal with anti-missile or anti-aircraft or air-to-air are going to have a field day, while Russia can forget about some business and the much needed economic aid.

So much for that.
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« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2007, 06:38:24 PM »
mother russia trying to flex her rusting withered muscles?

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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2007, 07:07:50 PM »
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mother russia trying to flex her rusting withered muscles?


Kind of reminds me of that scene in Monte Python's Search for the Holy Grail. The bring out yer dead scene and the not dead yet old man.
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« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2007, 12:15:57 AM »
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We are unable to inspect the new NATO members according to that treaty, NATO bases are within 10min flight time to Leningrad, Western side countries didn't ratify the treaty, so now we give a 150 day period to get it fixed. We followed it to the last digit, NATO didn't. Now Russia is outnumbered 5:1 in conventional forces in European theater.


Lets see.....you expect NATO to abide by a treaty they didn't ratify? If they didn't ratify it, they are NOT bound to abide by it. Pretty simple eh?

Russia outnumbered 5:1 in conventional forces? Who cares? NATO has no intention of invading Russia.

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Look, free-fall nuclear bombs, that can be dropped from F-16s, stored in Europe are officially against "terrorists".


Yawn!  Those nukes have been stored in Europe for decades. They could have been dropped from F-4 Phantoms decades ago, but they weren't and they won't be dropped from F-16's either.
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« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2007, 02:21:18 AM »
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mother russia trying to flex her rusting withered muscles?



Yes, but its not as rusty as you may think.

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« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2007, 03:10:04 AM »
A wound from rusted metal can be pretty ugly!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2007, 03:31:50 AM »
Yup, and a mothballed russian conventional military would be a gigantic threat to world piece. Alot bigger threat than any terrorists.

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« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2007, 08:23:57 AM »
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Lets see.....you expect NATO to abide by a treaty they didn't ratify? If they didn't ratify it, they are NOT bound to abide by it. Pretty simple eh?

Russia outnumbered 5:1 in conventional forces? Who cares? NATO has no intention of invading Russia.


 Then what for do you build up forces in Eastern Europe? Why do you need NATO bases in Baltic states? Just for fishing?

West didn't ratify the treaty for 15 years, so we raise a question of withdrawing now, you know - every agreement means mutual actions.

Remember how the crowd here advocated American withdrawal from 1972 ABM treaty? Looks like Western nations don't care about international agreements, they are too smart.

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Yawn!  Those nukes have been stored in Europe for decades. They could have been dropped from F-4 Phantoms decades ago, but they weren't and they won't be dropped from F-16's either.


USSR/Russia withdrew from Eastern Europe, now we see aggressors taking their place, with full load of weapons including nukes.

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« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2007, 08:26:00 AM »
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Then what for do you build up forces in Eastern Europe? Why do you need NATO bases in Baltic states? Just for fishing?.


Its the Baltic states who wants NATO there...as protection against you guys.

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« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2007, 08:41:28 AM »
I'm reminded of McNamara's warning about failure to empathize.

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« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2007, 08:49:33 AM »
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Its the Baltic states who wants NATO there...as protection against you guys.


Protection from us?!

What do they have there so we'll bother invading them? Toxic smoked fish? Then why did we let them go 15 years ago? Left them to the unemployment and poverty, stopped draining money into supporting their culture and national identity. Do we need to conquer them again? What for? To keep paying them welfare? No, thanks.

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« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2007, 08:52:28 AM »
Boroda. Have you seriously been told that NATO could or would at any point attack the USSR/russia ??

If that is true then sadly your propaganda ministers have done a great job and mislead you.

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« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2007, 09:04:40 AM »
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Protection from us?!

What do they have there so we'll bother invading them? .


Well, I dunno Boroda...why did you invade them the first two times?

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« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2007, 12:43:35 PM »
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Well, I dunno Boroda...why did you invade them the first two times?


First two times?! When!?