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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2007, 07:47:52 PM »
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so people who use and or grow medical marajuana for aids cancer .... are terrorists?


maybe you and all the idiots here live under rocks but mind altering substances(illegal drugs) harm you whether you like that it harms you or not!
Our nation has made these substances illegal to protect us, not to be mean or so Bush can have it all to himself.

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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2007, 07:55:13 PM »
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opps sorry I meant to post this in the O Club..


You stoned? :p

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2007, 07:55:34 PM »
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Again its not about whats healthier or less dangerous.

Its all about money.

Booze company owners have a strong lobby of rich folks that help keep it legal.

MJ has old hippies and thats about it.



The US government makes more money bustin people for pot, which leads to Probation and countless other costs.

Support your local Growers.

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2007, 08:05:36 PM »
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The US government makes more money bustin people for pot, which leads to Probation and countless other costs.

Actually not true, when your on probation you usually only pay about $30 a month for it, and the goverment is probably spending more then that to pay the people who work in the probation department.  Also if they have to jail you for it it cost them even more, a year in jail cost the state between $20,000-$30,000 a person.  Plus the cost of man time from the police to investigate and arresst people.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2007, 08:09:29 PM »
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maybe you and all the idiots here live under rocks but mind altering substances(illegal drugs) harm you whether you like that it harms you or not!
Our nation has made these substances illegal to protect us, not to be mean or so Bush can have it all to himself.


     I really believe after reading your post, that you may be one of those under a rock.  Where did you get the information that pot is harmful?  Do you consider pot to be a mind altering drug?  Who do you think lobbied our government to make pot illegal?  Why do you think those lobbyist wanted it illegal?  Maybe before you make a "blind obediance" statement like the one above, you should do your own research!:aok If there is one thing that history and our own founding fathers taught us, do not have blind obediance to any government, it is very unhealthy.  I have always believed that pot should be legal and regulated.  

     As for the original post, seems more of the same from the current administration.   Keep 'em scared, and they will practically give you every right they have!  


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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2007, 08:09:59 PM »
Again, our nations laws are designed to protect not bring wealth to the politicians. Some of you people really need to learn how to think and learn about our nation!

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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2007, 08:12:43 PM »
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I really believe after reading your post, that you may be one of those under a rock.  Where did you get the information that pot is harmful?  Do you consider pot to be a mind altering drug?  Who do you think lobbied our government to make pot illegal?  Why do you think those lobbyist wanted it illegal?  Maybe before you make a "blind obediance" statement like the one above, you should do your own research!:aok If there is one thing that history and our own founding fathers taught us, do not have blind obediance to any government, it is very unhealthy.  I have always believed that pot should be legal and regulated.  

     As for the original post, seems more of the same from the current administration.   Keep 'em scared, and they will practically give you every right they have!  


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Id rather be blindly obedient to my nation than ruin my life by using any illegal sub-stance.

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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2007, 08:24:24 PM »
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Again, our nations laws are designed to protect not bring wealth to the politicians.  



Wow!  Hey, I have some beachfront land in Arizona that I am letting go at an unbelievable cost, you interested?:aok

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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2007, 08:35:16 PM »
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Id rather be blindly obedient to my nation than ruin my life by using any illegal sub-stance.


Bush smoked pot and snorted cocaine, he ran for president and was voted in by the supreme court.  Don't think it ruined his life!

Listen Panzerr, you are probably a great citizen, and I applaud you for believing in something so naively(it is charming), but grow some balls man.  Start thinking for yourself a little.  Our nations constitution is set up so that we can question our government and decide for ourselves(through voting) what is right for "our" nation!  Do you know how many completely ignorant and worhtless laws are passed each year just so some rich guy can make more money?  Hell, if you have enough money, you can basically buy certain legislation.......it's called lobbying.  You can't be that clueless about how governments work, can you?  

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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2007, 08:41:10 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2007, 08:47:57 PM »
Booze, Legal, Regulated, Taxed

Tobacco, Legal, Regulated, Taxed

Gambling, Legal, Regulated, Taxed

Prostitution, Legal, Regulated, Taxed

See where I'm going with this?

In the areas of the US that these things are legal, they make money for the treasury. Lot's of money.

Want to reverse the flow of cash from the terrorists to the treasury?

Legalize it, Regulate it and Tax the heck out of it.
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2007, 08:49:10 PM »
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Again, our nations laws are designed to protect not bring wealth to the politicians. Some of you people really need to learn how to think and learn about our nation!


are you wearing horse blinders? america is corrupt as are all nations and it will always be corrupt, dont bag those who arent watching after school specials or those who are realists
A: pot is not harmful unless you drive while stoned
B: alchol leads to alcholism liver disease cancer death etc...
pot isnt even addictive its not a "mind controlling substance"
its a substance used to relioeve stress from disease gulacoma cancer aids etc... btw pot isnt illegal in al of us when i recently visited in ca there is a city there called north hollywood and it is legal to posses any amont of marajuana under 1 ounce.

ever heard of a cannibis club?
etc... hell some presidents even smoked and weed
and if not for weed america would not be what it is today lol

and yes i know i hang out with the wrong poeple :rofl

btw its almost 5 am here so please excuse my spelling
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2007, 08:59:50 PM »
panzer reminds me of Hank Hill :lol
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2007, 09:00:11 PM »
I never said our politicians are designed to protect us, our laws are, at least the sets made before the 1900s. I never said Bush is a great and noble guy who never smoked or got drunk. Our laws are what were made to protect us not politicians, the founding fathers are passed away along with what America was originally formed as, now you can duck and dive out of the way of punishment. It makes me angry that you people can act so foolish!
I am sure the drugs that are illegal are illegal to protect us from harm, they alter our minds and have negative consequences.
You people will learn some how the consequences of the illegal drugs, not exactly jail but death. Marijuana is more harmful than smoking a cigarette, i wouldn't do either but that is why marijuana is illegal and tobacco is not.

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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2007, 09:00:49 PM »
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Again its not about whats healthier or less dangerous.

Its all about money.

Booze company owners have a strong lobby of rich folks that help keep it legal.

MJ has old hippies and thats about it.



There was a really good program on PBS not long ago on the criminalization of cannibas in the United States and the forces that drove for it to be criminalized.  

The forces that drove for the criminalization of cannibas in the early part of the 20th Century was Hearst and DuPont.  Hearst owned huge tracts of timberland in the Pacific Northwest and DuPont had just come up with Nylon.  Why is this important and how did it lead to the crimalization of cannibas?  How did this result in the name marijauna?

William Randolph Hearst was a newpaper mogul, he needed paper, lots of it.  He also wanted to make lots of money from it but how?  Around this time, the process of making paper from wood pulp was being ironed out.  Remember, Hearst had millions upon millions of acres of timberland with all those trees...

At the time, Hemp was the major component of paper, as it didn't need the highly complicated chemical process that wood pulp needs to be turned into paper.

So we have Protagonist #1, now lets get ready for Protagonist #2...here comes DuPont.

DuPont had just come up with Nylon, which could be used in various things, such as rope but still couldn't find a very large commercial use for it at the time.  But they were convinced that it would make great rope and it would be a great way for it's mass introduction into the consumer market.  They had one stumbling block...Hemp.  Virtually all rope at the time was made with Hemp.

Now, we bring in the last Protagonist.  US Congress.  Hearst and the DuPont company got together with a US Congressman (I forget the man's name) and used him to lead the drive for criminalization of cannibas.  First, they tried the medical argument but the medical associations argued that cannibas did have medicinal value so the Evil Three changed tactics and started use sensationalism and fear in their quest to criminalize cannibas.

How did they do it?  They used an easy scapegoat, the illegal alien.  The Congressman started to tell tales of illegal aliens smuggling "Marijuana" (a completely contrived name that was used because it sounded "Mexican") and raping and robbing US citizens in stoned induced rages.  Once the Evil Three started to see this tactic succeed, they followed up with more sensational tales of the evils that cannibas can do (none though were based on scientific fact or any facts at all).  Then came movies like Reefer Madness, and then a turn in public opinion and greater calls from the public to wipe out the scourge of cannibas.

All the while, the US Congressman, William Randolph Hearst, and DuPont got rich.  Hearst now had the market for his wood pulp paper, DuPont had a market for their nylon rope and the Congressman got re-elected and his 15 minutes of fame.


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