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Offline Rolex

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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2007, 06:44:29 AM »
No one has a better connection than me, except the woman in Sweden.  :D

I just wish you guys in the US would get an internet so the rest of us could download something from you closer to our capacity... I think it's a shame the US is near the bottom in internet infrastructure, but near the top in price. Some competition instead of franchising areas would help.

I routinely get 80+Mbps file transferring stuff P2P from a film editor while we're having a video conference at the same time. But, we're both on the same provider and our fiber is symmetrical and without caps. 100Mbps for about US$55. It feels like about $40 with cost of living. I'm actually wired for 1Gbps, but capped at 100Mbps for another year or so.

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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2007, 08:55:52 AM »
It would help for comparisons if everyone stated who and what level of service they have:

brighthouse networks/rr standard home package

6821 download  491 upload to Atlanta

6409 down 489 up to san fran

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« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2007, 09:38:11 AM »
Someone asked about FIOS. I have it and i also work for verizon installing it.
In the US you cant get a faster more reliable connection.
I have the 15/2 pkg for reg<49.00> i pay 29 due to being a employee.

As for steves claim of 15+mps on cable.....sorry but cable isnt able to provide that kinda speed. As the skuzzmiester said....cache :(

Aslo cable shares its bandwidth with everyone in the neighborhood. at 3am you might get 8mps but during the day when everyone is on your lucky if you can get half that.


The FIOS buildout contiunes and will continue for a looooong time.
We are also testing new GPON cards. This will allow up to 100mps and many more HD chnls for the video side
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« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2007, 10:32:23 AM »
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As for steves claim of 15+mps on cable.....sorry but cable isnt able to provide that kinda speed. As the skuzzmiester said....cache :(
:rofl  You got lots to catch up. Just about any cable provider offers 15/2 or more in areas where it competes with Verizon FIOS.  Current DOCSIS 1.x limits bandwidth to 42/10, DOCSIS 2 provides upstream channel bonding for total of 42/30 and DOCSIS 3 is good for 480/120.
If you are interested how's that possible I suggest you study current and future cable technologies and standards. Should be beneficial to you if you decide to 'jump' the ship.

As for the cache, it doesn't influence the test. Just about any speed test today (most are java or flash based) uses random file names. Speakeasy test takes into account even things like TCP overhead and displays usable bandwidth. You can repeat it 100 times and you'll never hit into cahced file...


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Aslo cable shares its bandwidth with everyone in the neighborhood. at 3am you might get 8mps but during the day when everyone is on your lucky if you can get half that.
Bandwidth is always shared. Cable, DSL, FIOS, all the same, just the point from which your bandwidth is shared differ.

It depends upon provider to scale the system appropriately whether it is FIOS , DSL, CABLE or something else.


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The FIOS buildout contiunes and will continue for a looooong time.
We are also testing new GPON cards. This will allow up to 100mps and many more HD chnls for the video side
We need competition. That means several providers per household to chose from. In areas where there's no competition (majority of USA), there's no incentive for ISPs to offer significantly more than that we already have.

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« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2007, 12:11:08 PM »
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As for steves claim of 15+mps on cable.....sorry but cable isnt able to provide that kinda speed.



Bzzzzzzzzzzzzt  Wrong.


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Aslo cable shares its bandwidth with everyone in the neighborhood. at 3am you might get 8mps but during the day when everyone is on your lucky if you can get half that


10:08 this morning:
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Download Speed: 13374 kbps
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« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2007, 06:07:53 PM »
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A 75 year old woman from Karlstad in central Sweden has been thrust into the IT history books - with the world's fastest internet connection.

Sigbritt Löthberg's home has been supplied with a blistering 40 Gigabits per second connection, many thousands of times faster than the average residential link and the first time ever that a home user has experienced such a high speed.
 


Well first off it isn't broadband it is baseband.

Second off it is an ISP publicity stunt. Nowhere in any articles does it tell you if she has anything more than a 40Gbps capable router. Nor does it tell you how far from the ISP  she is (not far judging by the lack of specifics). It's also doubtful that ISP has 40gbps of backhaul.

So basically at best it is a 40Gbps point to point network. And on fairly uninteresting technology. Juniper was doing this a few years back on their T540's.

2 years ago I had a 10Gbps router at home for christmas to play with, does that mean I had 10Gbps internet, of if I strung of piece of fibre to my neighbours they had 10Gbps internet... no.

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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2007, 06:37:37 PM »
I'm tired of paying top dollar for my Internet connections that only gets 5 mbps download / 500 kbps upload.  

For those who want REAL high speed internet should visit this website...
http://www.speedmatters.org/why/principles.html


THe best we can hope for is 50 mbps.
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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2007, 06:45:15 PM »
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Someone asked about FIOS. I have it and i also work for verizon installing it.
In the US you cant get a faster more reliable connection.
I have the 15/2 pkg for reg<49.00> i pay 29 due to being a employee.


But how is Verizon rolling it out?  What is their plan?  I don't seem to be able to get it here in Boston, in the city itself, but relatives in the sticks have been able to get it for over a year.  Have they just not run the fiber yet or what?

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I think it's a shame the US is near the bottom in internet infrastructure, but near the top in price. Some competition instead of franchising areas would help.


If we had a population as small, as urban and as centrally located as that of Sweden (or South Korea), we could do that.  But we have 300 million people, in places like Kansas and Alabama and Montana with populations spread in rural areas over huge distances that make regular market forces inapplicable for most utilities; if companies didn't have franchises, they wouldn't bother with Americans located out in the sticks and even in many suburbs.  I'm all for competition, but this is an expensive business and FCC requirements for service availability don't make it any cheaper.  And the courts keep shutting down co-op networks started by localities, which is friggin' criminal.

That said, I'd love someone to actually provide a viable threat to Comcast and/or Verizon.  Thanks to the myopic Telecommunications Act of 1996, our cable rates have increased at double the rate of inflation every year since 1996.  And we just don't have any choice.

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« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2007, 07:09:34 PM »
Wow, I live just outside the city limits, and can't even get DSL or anything other than dial up. If I could get BellSouth dial up, it would run faster, a few of me friends have that, and it runs very much faster on their computer. AOL ranges from 25kbps to 41kbps. BellSouth stays at pretty much 44kbps and up.

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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2007, 08:06:44 PM »
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
Someone asked about FIOS. I have it and i also work for verizon installing it.
In the US you cant get a faster more reliable connection.
I have the 15/2 pkg for reg<49.00> i pay 29 due to being a employee.

As for steves claim of 15+mps on cable.....sorry but cable isnt able to provide that kinda speed. As the skuzzmiester said....cache :(

Aslo cable shares its bandwidth with everyone in the neighborhood. at 3am you might get 8mps but during the day when everyone is on your lucky if you can get half that.


The FIOS buildout contiunes and will continue for a looooong time.
We are also testing new GPON cards. This will allow up to 100mps and many more HD chnls for the video side


I have FIOS. Its nice exept for the ActionTec router seems to mess up alot.

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« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2007, 10:50:34 PM »
Hi Skuzzy,

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Psssst.  It's called caching.  :)


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« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2007, 11:24:40 PM »
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Wow, I live just outside the city limits, and can't even get DSL or anything other than dial up. If I could get BellSouth dial up, it would run faster, a few of me friends have that, and it runs very much faster on their computer. AOL ranges from 25kbps to 41kbps. BellSouth stays at pretty much 44kbps and up.
McFarland, what town do you live near? I will find you a better dialup than AOHell, unless you just enjoy paying more for less.
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« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2007, 11:25:18 PM »
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But how is Verizon rolling it out?  What is their plan?  I don't seem to be able to get it here in Boston, in the city itself, but relatives in the sticks have been able to get it for over a year.  Have they just not run the fiber yet or what?

If we had a population as small, as urban and as centrally located as that of Sweden (or South Korea), we could do that.  But we have 300 million people, in places like Kansas and Alabama and Montana with populations spread in rural areas over huge distances that make regular market forces inapplicable for most utilities; if companies didn't have franchises, they wouldn't bother with Americans located out in the sticks and even in many suburbs.  I'm all for competition, but this is an expensive business and FCC requirements for service availability don't make it any cheaper.  And the courts keep shutting down co-op networks started by localities, which is friggin' criminal.

That said, I'd love someone to actually provide a viable threat to Comcast and/or Verizon.  Thanks to the myopic Telecommunications Act of 1996, our cable rates have increased at double the rate of inflation every year since 1996.  And we just don't have any choice.


Hi 0thehero,

Your point about population density is a classic talking point of the same companies you feel frustrated with. It's part of their game plan to avoid  investment and keep you helplessly trapped in an overpriced duopoly of old infrastructure being milked for every penny and enforced by the FCC. There are no market forces at work. The duopoly takes your money and lobbies with it to strengthen their grip on you through the appointed FCC, state and local boards. Their purpose is to protect the industry, not advance competition.

The density argument falls apart in the first part of your post. Why isn't Boston and every other high-density urban area wired as it should be? Because they simply don't want to spend the investment. They would rather pocket the profit without reinvesting. Even their employees, the Communication Workers of America, understand this and their recent report reflects it.

"The U.S. invests relatively less on telecommunications as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product. Indeed, we rank behind South Korea, Great Britain, Spain, Canada, Japan, France and even Mexico."

I have a place in the mountains far from any urban area with 40Mbps DSL, and 100Mbps fiber (up and down) at my other place that is over an hour drive to a major city, and have 3 fiber competitors to choose from. Anyway, I understand your frustration, but density or market forces are not the main reasons for it. ;)

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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2007, 02:23:36 PM »
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McFarland, what town do you live near? I will find you a better dialup than AOHell, unless you just enjoy paying more for less.


I live near Clinton, Tennessee. Me AOHell (you said it right) is sent out of Knoxville, aboot 10-15 miles away. We can't get BellSouth, too many ads, (although, I would get it anyway, but the rest of the family don't want to be "illegal":rolleyes: and block the ads). I hate the expense of AOL, but it's the only one (except for BellSouth, which the family doesn't want to get. :rolleyes: ). I would be surprised if you found anything around here, the only internet sources I've seen are BellSouth DSL and dial up, and DSL only works inside the central part of the city. And AOhelL. There aren't any fiber networks around here, me friend was looking for one a while back. Cable would be an option, but it's $5 dollars more than AOL, and they would also have to run the cable a half mile to reach here. I certainly don't enjoy paying more for less. Anything you can find would be appreciated, I tried that one search, but it couldn't find anything closer than Knoxville.

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« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2007, 11:12:49 AM »
Global broadband prices revealed


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6900697.stm




Sweden $10.79
Denmark $11.11
Switzerland $12.53
US $15.93
France $16.36
Netherlands $16.85
New Zealand $16.86
Italy $17.63
Ireland $18.18
Finland $19.49
*Source: OECD. Figures for October 2006