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Offline DaddyAck

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2007, 10:07:21 PM »
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Wrong.

It's basically the same company.

Messerschmitt was working for the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (since 1927), when he designed the 109. Hence the "Bf".
In 1938, the company was reconstituted as the Messerschmidt AG, with Willy Messerschmidt as chairman and managing director.


Pretty much, and now I believe whats left of Messerschmitt AG, later became Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) which became/ bought by DaimlerChrysler Aerospace AG (DASA) then lastly becoming part of European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company EADS N.V. (EADS)
So yeah there is the life cyle of the company ina nut shell.

Offline Benny Moore

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2007, 10:16:52 PM »
Germans pronounced the letters "may hundertneun."  Some Germans have objected to my phonetic spelling of this and have told me that it should be "meh hundertneun,"  but to the Northern American ear it sounds like "may."  The Allies  pronounced the "M and E" seperately, "em ee one oh nine."  The Me-110 would most likely be "em ee one ten."  I'm not sure what the Germans would call that.

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2007, 10:51:24 PM »
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Germans pronounced the letters "may hundertneun."  Some Germans have objected to my phonetic spelling of this and have told me that it should be "meh hundertneun,"  but to the Northern American ear it sounds like "may."  The Allies  pronounced the "M and E" seperately, "em ee one oh nine."  The Me-110 would most likely be "em ee one ten."  I'm not sure what the Germans would call that.


The Bf-110 was 'Em-Ee-One-One-Oh' according to Robert Stanford Tuck, 'Sailor' Malan, and several other RAF aces.

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2007, 12:54:12 AM »
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The Me-110 was 'Em-Ee-One-One-Oh' according to Robert Stanford Tuck, 'Sailor' Malan, and several other RAF aces.


I fixed your post.

Offline BaldEagl

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2007, 12:59:44 AM »
BF........................... ............................. ............................. ..........................D

Who cares?
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2007, 01:01:24 AM »
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I fixed your post.


No, written, its Bf to me, always. But as was already stated, the two are interchangeable

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2007, 01:06:08 AM »
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  The Me-110 would most likely be "em ee one ten."  I'm not sure what the Germans would call that.


"Meh hundertzehn" :)

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2007, 06:24:10 AM »
The Bf prefix was assigned by the RLM to aircraft types developed under the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke company name. This prefix did not change just because Willy bought the company not firming under Messerschmitt AG. The prefix Me was assigned by the RLM for new aircraft developed under the Messerschmitt AG company name, the first to officially carry this prefix was the Me 210.

In almost all official documentation from Messerschmitt for the RLM/Luftwaffe you will only find Bf, sometimes the RLM was ordered to not accept documents with Me prefix instead of Bf. Me was several times used as prefix for export versions of the Bf 109.

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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2007, 11:24:11 AM »
Thanks for the clarification all.

I think I knew part of the story, but now I understand it much better.

I'll just split the difference and call them "MF-109" (tm) from now on.

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2007, 12:26:20 PM »
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"MF-109" (tm)


can i guess what the MF means? :)

and heres a tm symbol ™ :p
(if it showed up on your 'puter)
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2007, 12:35:41 PM »
"Mofo 109s inbound, 2 oclock!"


Yeah, that works! :aok

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2007, 12:41:30 PM »
:rofl
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2007, 01:24:00 PM »
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"MF-109"


I love it! Thats what theyre probably thinking ANYWAY...

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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »
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"Mofo 109s inbound, 2 oclock!"


Yeah, that works! :aok


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2007, 05:25:02 AM »
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IIRC, its Bavarian. Like in BMW.


Use Bayerische Flugzeugwerke.

Translating names is a bad habbit imo, unless you have to because the alphabet is different.