School was in session last night- exceptional flying

[toonces3]

I had horrible connection issues last night.  Finally, about 11pm west coast time I was able to get on for a sortie or two before I went to bed.  I saw a red dot approaching A22, I upped a Spit 16, and on climbout I saw it was a P-51.

As I was climbing out, I saw what was to become a 20 minute school on energy management.  This P51 came in at a decent alt (10-12k maybe), and I watched him dive in on this friendly and BOOM smoke him in one pass.  Then back up and did it again to another friendly (maybe 4-5 around the base).

I had extended and got some alt, so I came back to engage.  He dove on a guy and I rolled inverted and dove down and got a wad of speed.  He goes vertical and I follow.  Now I know what you're all saying- rope.  But no, I had alot of e and figured I could follow.  And I did all the way to 400 yards.  Then, as I was hanging there desperately trying to put him in my sights, I watched him flop and a second later I flopped and I knew I was dead.  Sure enough he pinged me all over and as I got some control authority I started spiraling and maneuvering pointed at the deck to shake him.  I kept checking 6 and couldn't find him and this is when I really knew I was in trouble.  Instead of following me all the way to the deck, he broke and climbed back up.  

That's when I really started to learn how to fight a patient, energy efficient fight.  I would've followed me to the deck until I was a black spot, but instead this guy grabbed his alt and e back and fought smart.

At any rate, I landed and reupped a new 16, all the while watching this guy working the field side to side, not vulching, but picking guys off, extending, going vertical, coming in and hitting his target in one pass, then extending, etc.  The closest I ever got was the 400 in the vertical.  I got 600 once and 800 once in a chase.  But I felt this guy was reading my energy perfectly, knowing that I wouldn't be able to get a kill shot every time I rolled in on him.  It was so beautiful to watch.

Eventually he extended for home and I knew I couldn't catch him, so I landed and then waited in the tower.  After any appropriate amount of time I saw slayr1 landed 10 victories in a P51D.  I PM'd him a salute.  Not sure what he said back, either piss off or thanks.  So I didn't say anything back because I'm not sure if it's cool to PM people in game.

Anyway, with no offence to my squad mates, I probably learned more about fighting the pony, and energy management in those 20 minutes than I've learned over the last few months of flying the game.  What a well-executed, disciplined fight.

Big Slayr1.

Oh, I looked him up on the roster afterwards, and he's the #1 overall ranked guy in the game.  Not that that means anything.

[P47Gra]

I agree with you.  I have seen him fight a pony and I am in awe.  I fight with a jug most of the time and I have to play the E game every fight.  That person knows how to do it and I will learn by watching him smoke my arse.  Salute to the man in the Pony.

Jugs


Their fast when they got alt.   There soft in the hand.

[Bruv119]

Originally posted by toonces3

Oh, I looked him up on the roster afterwards, and he's the #1 overall ranked guy in the game.  Not that that means anything.

All that means is he is putting more effort in than SHawk  

Good on the lad for trying. I gave him some advice on how to improve his fighter rank and flew with him a couple of times.  looks like he has potatod that category down too.

Bruv
~S~

[toonces3]

I can't believe that I didn't tape it.  I must have been in a diaper changing haze by that time last night, and it didn't occur to me.

I'd love to be able to watch that fight from his perspective.

[airspro]

Slayr1 is a nice guy , at least he has been to me . Nice fight you got to watch and be in .


Next time if try this if you havn't yet flying a Spit v Pony .

You got your alt and e and watch him dive on a con , don't follow him down but try and meet him when he comes back up again . This works alot better . I just fly across to the Pony , most times they gonna come back up so no need to dive . Trick is to get close enough to shoot before he dives away again .

Next if your following a con up , did you put your Spit's flap down at 160 ? If you do this will help you some to stay up at the top of the might be rope .

[Husky01]

So wait you learned from slayr BnZing you for 20 min cause he doesn't like to die in fighter mode? Ill have to talk to slayr about this one! hehe

Edit: Slayrs a squadie a good guy a good stick nice to be around very polite I doubt he would of said piss off to you. knowing slayr he would of ed back and said ty or whatever.

[jaxxo]

weeee a bnz pony with supreme SA..




flew 2 pony sortys last night..11 kills in 20 minutes without even getting close to dying..ahh well just not my style I guess...wtg

[toonces3]

Jaxxo talking smack...

yawn.

and I've only been playing 3 months.


But that is a killer graphic dude.  Do you find those on the net, or do you have them saved on your hard drive?

[CAP1]

Originally posted by toonces3
I had horrible connection issues last night.  Finally, about 11pm west coast time I was able to get on for a sortie or two before I went to bed.  I saw a red dot approaching A22, I upped a Spit 16, and on climbout I saw it was a P-51.

As I was climbing out, I saw what was to become a 20 minute school on energy management.  This P51 came in at a decent alt (10-12k maybe), and I watched him dive in on this friendly and BOOM smoke him in one pass.  Then back up and did it again to another friendly (maybe 4-5 around the base).

I had extended and got some alt, so I came back to engage.  He dove on a guy and I rolled inverted and dove down and got a wad of speed.  He goes vertical and I follow.

1)actually, i used to do thayt too.......but what i do now when i see someone doin that is try to time it so i'm just heading to where he's gonna be just about outta energy, and rollin over for his next pass,,,,,,then i shoot the livin crap outta him.....it works very nicely too:aok

  Now I know what you're all saying- rope.  But no, I had alot of e and figured I could follow.  And I did all the way to 400 yards.  Then, as I was hanging there desperately trying to put him in my sights, I watched him flop and a second later I flopped and I knew I was dead.  Sure enough he pinged me all over and as I got some control authority I started spiraling and maneuvering pointed at the deck to shake him.  I kept checking 6 and couldn't find him and this is when I really knew I was in trouble.  Instead of following me all the way to the deck, he broke and climbed back up.  

That's when I really started to learn how to fight a patient, energy efficient fight.  I would've followed me to the deck until I was a black spot, but instead this guy grabbed his alt and e back and fought smart.

At any rate, I landed and reupped a new 16, all the while watching this guy working the field side to side, not vulching, but picking guys off, extending, going vertical, coming in and hitting his target in one pass, then extending, etc.  The closest I ever got was the 400 in the vertical.  I got 600 once and 800 once in a chase.

2) in the spit 16, depending on your convergence setting, i think you could've gotten a pretty damaging hit on him at 400......at 600, probably only pissed him off, or made him turn.....800...forget it..although in the p38, i've landed hist at 1k out......just enough to make him turn////then he kilt me lololololololol
  But I felt this guy was reading my energy perfectly, knowing that I wouldn't be able to get a kill shot every time I rolled in on him.  It was so beautiful to watch.

Eventually he extended for home and I knew I couldn't catch him, so I landed and then waited in the tower.  After any appropriate amount of time I saw slayr1 landed 10 victories in a P51D.  I PM'd him a salute.  Not sure what he said back, either piss off or thanks.  So I didn't say anything back because I'm not sure if it's cool to PM people in game.

Anyway, with no offence to my squad mates, I probably learned more about fighting the pony, and energy management in those 20 minutes than I've learned over the last few months of flying the game.  What a well-executed, disciplined fight.

Big Slayr1.

Oh, I looked him up on the roster afterwards, and he's the #1 overall ranked guy in the game.  Not that that means anything.

[Atoon]

Originally posted by toonces3
I can't believe that I didn't tape it.  I must have been in a diaper changing haze by that time last night, and it didn't occur to me.

I'd love to be able to watch that fight from his perspective.

The Avatar & plane choice I understand, the diaper changing part throws me.

[toonces3]

I have a new infant (was very new when I wrote the thread).  Not getting a lot of sleep, which makes me a bit forgetful.

To whoever asked, no, I didn't use my Spit's flaps going over the top.  

If I ever learn to shoot, these guys that keep putting themselves 400 yards out in my pipper are gonna start getting free trips to the tower.

[jaxxo]

i think the point i was making is that the pony does alot more than go vertical and bnz..nuthin against slayer but thanks for your cent and a half

[storch]

Originally posted by jaxxo
i think the point i was making is that the pony does alot more than go vertical and bnz

ain't that the truth. the sumbiotch runs like a scalded cat too.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by airspro


You got your alt and e and watch him dive on a con , don't follow him down but try and meet him when he comes back up again . This works alot better . I just fly across to the Pony , most times they gonna come back up so no need to dive . Trick is to get close enough to shoot before he dives away again .

 

Some sound advise right there.