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Offline Hazard69

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 10:28:35 AM »
I used to feel the exact same way...J seems to have a slight edge in a knife fight
....but a little more stick time in the L and once you get used to the stuff you can do with the amazing roll rate (compared to the J anyway) it kinda grows on you. Plus being able to carry rockets without worrying about drag penalties later is an added bonus.
But yeah, I do like the J's looks. P38's look irresistible in green:aok
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 11:53:46 AM »
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Im assuming that you are flying a 38J? Don't bother with it.......its identical to the L except it rolls slower and accelerates a hair's width better. If you want to mix it up in a 38 though the G's the way to go. Fair warning, the G's cockpit needs some getting used to......:eek: ;) :aok


Bah! The J and Ls cockpit need getting used to, not my uber G. :t
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2007, 01:11:43 AM »
38G is THE 38 to fly :)

She's my baby:p
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2007, 02:48:40 AM »
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38G is THE 38 to fly :)

She's my baby:p


I <3 the G also.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2007, 07:45:28 PM »
It DOES turn amazingly well. Turned with a Spit 16 on quite a few occasions, but I'd prefer the looping and hanging power of the WEP J's and L's.

Also, which J and which L do we have? J-15 and L-5, right? Not sure.. I'm not the smartest P-38 junky... I don't even know their service entrance years :huh

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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2007, 10:08:59 PM »
General consensus is that we have a J-15 and an L-1.  L's entered combat service in roughly October 44 in both the ETO and Pacific.

J-10s were the main ride for the ETO 38 groups from December 44 on.  Most of the 9th AF groups that came in May 44 had J-10s to start.
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2007, 12:01:53 AM »
When you get bored of flying the pbom3ber8 try the p47 its uber ya know :)
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2007, 10:39:38 AM »
I was considering that, but too bad I don't think I'll ever get bored of the 38 and the the F4U's my main plane.

However, I totally do respect the P-47, I just don't know anything about it :)

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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2007, 10:49:42 AM »
All I know about P47s is:
P47 =  minigun with wings!:aok

Dont need to know anything else!:D
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2007, 01:51:57 PM »
hah. those 8 fifties pack a punch.. I prefer them over 2 hispanos any day. well. back to the topic.

I've heard the P-38 is an awesome vertical fighter due to the counter rotating props. Would I therefore use vertical against the likes of the Corsair? I mean, knowing the Hog, you can't make her overshoot in a P-38. So what can we do?

The P-38 is magnificent to fly and I've bagged a few ace sorties but how do the best 38 sticks fly? Close in with angles and flips like the Hog, or extensions and loops? Or both? I'm just having a bit of trouble :p

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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2007, 06:46:42 PM »
Me too, I can never get someone off my tail, unless they completely blow it, and this is starting to get really frustrating as I'm on the verge of being able to land 2-3 kills consistently (in 8 player).  So, how do I get someone off my tail?  Let's say d400-800 coE or greater?  

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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2007, 08:54:18 PM »
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hah. those 8 fifties pack a punch.. I prefer them over 2 hispanos any day. well. back to the topic.

I've heard the P-38 is an awesome vertical fighter due to the counter rotating props. Would I therefore use vertical against the likes of the Corsair? I mean, knowing the Hog, you can't make her overshoot in a P-38. So what can we do?

The P-38 is magnificent to fly and I've bagged a few ace sorties but how do the best 38 sticks fly? Close in with angles and flips like the Hog, or extensions and loops? Or both? I'm just having a bit of trouble :p


I'm by far not a "best" 38 stick, but it has been my main ride for the past 3 or 4 months since I was very determined to learn how to fly and be successful in it. Ill give you some advice I have found that works for me that you can try.

You can fly the 38 both ways, depending on the situation. One of the best defensive and offensive maneuvers that has saved my bacon numerous times is the spiral climb. The direction of the climb is important, since you can't outclimb a spit16 or 109K straight up, you can spiral climb to the right against the torque of their engines and watch them stall under you, giving you some options. The first couple times you use it you will die for one reason or another, but once you get the hang of it, and when and how much flap to put down to seemingly "float" above them, it is invaluable. I have stall fought spit16's, la7s, niks, 109's etc. in the vertical using this maneuver with great success. I may not have won every engagement but I don't die very often. Timing, good gunnery for brief snapshots, and good enemy energy assessments are essential for success.

Just something I found works well in a 38. Try it out and see if it works for you.
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2007, 11:35:43 PM »
Seems like some good advice. I'll try it Lancer, thanks!

Maybe learning it will teach me how to do it properly in the F4U as well, as I've seen other F4U-1A's hang me with the same maneuver. Of course, it all depends on energy and the P-38's counter props let it hang both Tempest and Spitfire alike.

At any rate, I've never successfully done it unless they were really low on E.
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