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EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« on: October 19, 2008, 05:20:56 PM »
is EndItAll ( EndItAll2 ) basically the same thing as Ati's new Fusion Beta?

and Skuzzy, you posted in a thread that their are better control centers than Ati's CCC? do you recommend any for the 3870?
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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 11:51:17 PM »
You may have enditall confused. It is not a control center. It ends programs that are not needed to run your computer.

check this link it will describe

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1935,00.asp
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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 12:19:10 AM »
thx drdeathx, but I already know what  EndItAll and EndItAll2 is and what it does, I already have both versions on my PC, in my archived back up files folder.......

I was curious as if Ati's new FUSION is similar to EndItAll, by reading the overview of it here:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_fusion.aspx?p=1

ATI is saying that their new FUSION Beta is an EndItAll type BETA program, to where you can better tweak your PC Processes, even overclock your CPU  and your GPU, and has a Game Mode Option......I was wondering if anyone was possibly giving it a go, to see if it was any good.......



the control center I was asking Skuzzy about was CCC ( Catalyst Control Center  for Ati  Video Cards ). Skuzzy posted that it is now bloated and uses the NET Framework 2.0 or higher.......and he posted there was better programs out there that was smaller, used less memory and worked better.......


thansk for trying though.....  :salute
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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 01:18:18 AM »
thx drdeathx, but I already know what  EndItAll and EndItAll2 is and what it does, I already have both versions on my PC, in my archived back up files folder.......

I was curious as if Ati's new FUSION is similar to EndItAll, by reading the overview of it here:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_fusion.aspx?p=1

ATI is saying that their new FUSION Beta is an EndItAll type BETA program, to where you can better tweak your PC Processes, even overclock your CPU  and your GPU, and has a Game Mode Option......I was wondering if anyone was possibly giving it a go, to see if it was any good.......



the control center I was asking Skuzzy about was CCC ( Catalyst Control Center  for Ati  Video Cards ). Skuzzy posted that it is now bloated and uses the NET Framework 2.0 or higher.......and he posted there was better programs out there that was smaller, used less memory and worked better.......


thansk for trying though.....  :salute

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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 08:48:15 AM »
Tequila... Skuzz did say that it was bloated but if you have somewhat of a newer computer, I wouldn't worry
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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 03:12:39 PM »
Here is a good alternative to the CCC.  CCC simply has far too much overhead and the fact it requires .NET framework should be a concern to anyone looking for good solid, smooth game play regardless of the hardware.  Why waste CPU cycles AND resources when you do not need to?

The ATI Tray Tools does a pretty nice job and has a very low impact on the CPU.  I have not tried RivaTuner in quite a while, but it is mostly for overclocking.
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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 10:31:17 PM »
Thanks Skuzzy,  works like a charm   :rock


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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 04:36:57 PM »
thanks Skuzzy, greatly appreciated, Sir!
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 08:16:07 PM »
Here is a good alternative to the CCC.  CCC simply has far too much overhead and the fact it requires .NET framework should be a concern to anyone looking for good solid, smooth game play regardless of the hardware.  Why waste CPU cycles AND resources when you do not need to?

The ATI Tray Tools does a pretty nice job and has a very low impact on the CPU.  I have not tried RivaTuner in quite a while, but it is mostly for overclocking.


ATI Tray Tools is a fantastic program and can be used quite safely in conjuction with CCC if you have it installed, though the overclocking and fan speed control is a little on the wonky side but should be fixed in the next version (whenever it will be released, though for some reason I don't expect a new version of ATI Tray Tools in my lifetime) but you can still set the OC and fan speeds manually.  Just need to make sure that you enable them again after you've loaded a profile.

As for RivaTuner, for ATI cards is basically only good for setting and controlling your fan speed and for GPU usage monitoring, though it does allow for some low level driver tweaking but you can do that with ATI Tray.


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Re: EndItAll vs ATI's Fusion
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 09:42:23 AM »

ATI Tray Tools is a fantastic program and can be used quite safely in conjuction with CCC if you have it installed, though the overclocking and fan speed control is a little on the wonky side but should be fixed in the next version (whenever it will be released, though for some reason I don't expect a new version of ATI Tray Tools in my lifetime) but you can still set the OC and fan speeds manually.  Just need to make sure that you enable them again after you've loaded a profile.

As for RivaTuner, for ATI cards is basically only good for setting and controlling your fan speed and for GPU usage monitoring, though it does allow for some low level driver tweaking but you can do that with ATI Tray.


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I've been running Ray Adams ATI Tray Tools for quite a while with my crossfire 3870 vid cards and Omega Drivers with NO CCC bull installed.  Like Ack-Ack says, it's a fantastic program and you really don't need that CCC .net junk running on your system.

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