How many pounds of bombs does it take to kill a CV?

[1K3]

Originally posted by tedrbr
From the rear, the torp would have a hard time catching up to the CV.  From the front, you've a narrow target to hit.

Is it still possible to kill doing both?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by 1K3
Is it still possible to kill doing both?

Yes.

[Spikes]

Originally posted by trax1
It's the same amount of ord with torps, you need to hit the CV with  8,000lb's of ord, weather it be from bomb's or torp's.

yes, and torps are 2000lbers, and in last patch they doubled damage, so...


2x torps to sink CV

[trax1]

Originally posted by SpikesX
yes, and torps are 2000lbers, and in last patch they doubled damage, so...


2x torps to sink CV

If they did that, then why don't they change the torps in the hangers to say 4,000lb's instead of still having it say 2,000lb's.  Leaving it that way is just gonna confuse people.

[trax1]

Originally posted by 1K3
Most people attack CVs and ships at the side while on a torpedo run.  I wonder if you can damage/destroy a CV by attacking at rear or head-on with torpedoes.

Why would you think that hitting the CV from the front or rear would change the amount of damage the torp would do compared to hitting it from the side?

[Rolex]

1. You should not be able to sink an undamaged CV with a formation of Ju-88s. If you can, then there might be a bug since the F5B torpedo had a maximum 551 lbs. of explosive charge. That's only 6,612 lbs. total for a formation including the doubling of damage to take into account the effect of hitting below the water line.

2. It's extremely rare to be able to hit from directly astern. You cannot drop at the moment the fleet ack begins to chew you up and hit the CV. Axis torpedoes are fast, but have a short travel time. They cannot catch the fleet before fuel is exhausted. Slow torpedoes (US models) have no chance of overcoming the speed differential from astern, even though they run longer.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Rolex
1. You should not be able to sink an undamaged CV with a formation of Ju-88s. If you can, then there might be a bug since the F5B torpedo had a maximum 551 lbs. of explosive charge. That's only 6,612 lbs. total for a formation including the doubling of damage to take into account the effect of hitting below the water line.
 

You have to take into account that bombs had also less explosive than their pure weight would indicate.
For example a standard German thin walled SC-500 (1100 lbs) had 250-260kg (550-570 lbs) explosive filling.
8000 lbs bombs would be about 4000lbs explosives, so there is no bug with torpedoes in my opinion.

[CAP1]

Originally posted by trax1
Yeah but better to overkill it then under-kill it.

agreed:D

[Rolex]

Originally posted by Lusche
You have to take into account that bombs had also less explosive than their pure weight would indicate.
For example a standard German thin walled SC-500 (1100 lbs) had 250-260kg (550-570 lbs) explosive filling.
8000 lbs bombs would be about 4000lbs explosives, so there is no bug with torpedoes in my opinion.

Good point.

I was looking at torps recently and can't seem to find any reference material showing a US Mark 13 model with the same drop height, run, and arming characteristics as we have in AH. Doesn't mean that there wasn't any, just that I haven't found it yet.

I'm going to do some testing first to confirm the characteristics of the ones we have. A project!

[Brooke]

Torpedoes in AH do the equivalent of 4650 lbs of explosive.  A CV takes 6750 lbs of explosive to sink.

In the hangar, the torpedo is listed as 2000 lbs -- I believe that's the weight of the whole torpedo, not the weight of the warhead (which for WWII is more like 500-600 lbs), and not the effective damage of its warhead measured in lbs of HE.

As for what it took to sink ships during WWII, check out the "Ship Hardness" section near the end of this document:

http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200706_husky/rules.html