FW190A5 vs SPIT5/8/9/16 with batfinkv

[Shane]

Here are the FW190A5 vs the Spit9/8/5 with one 16.  The initial setup was fw w/25%, spit w/50% and 6k merge. we both agreed the FW could pretty much control the fight thru speed (if no mistakes made), so we were both more aggressive in the FW's.


fw190a5 v  spit9 mgs only:
http://www.speedyshare.com/276860700.html
http://www.speedyshare.com/687113678.html

fw190a5 v spit8 mgs only:
http://www.speedyshare.com/787921733.html
http://www.speedyshare.com/621271306.html

fw190a5 v  spit5 mg only:
http://www.speedyshare.com/411670909.html
http://www.speedyshare.com/434170266.html

then fulls guns fw190a5 v spit9:
http://www.speedyshare.com/512923268.html
http://www.speedyshare.com/723948332.html

mix up in comms resulted in fw v fw full guns:
http://www.speedyshare.com/728696431.html

lastly we did spit9/16 w/o flap or throttle use by the spit to represent a typical spit weenie   

spit9 mg's only no flaps/throttle
http://www.speedyshare.com/779875979.html

spit16 full guns no flaps/throttle
http://www.speedyshare.com/178635573.html


i'm too lazy to add commentary beyond, guns do make a difference, but if the shot is missed, you can still see what the planes are capable of.

i will add a few subtle insights - you'll notice at times in the scissors especially, i'll either try and slow down under their nose,  or if speed allows, go upwards more. the goal being hopefully they lose SA on you. this again is a reminder of how important throttle and flap control are in certain situations you'll find yourself in.

these files disappear after a certain amount of time w/o a new download.  <shrug>

was fun bat.   

[dentin]

Here are the FW190A5 vs the Spit9/8/5 with one 16.  The initial setup was fw w/25%, spit w/50% and 6k merge. we both agreed the FW could pretty much control the fight thru speed (if no mistakes made), so we were both more aggressive in the FW's.

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i'm too lazy to add commentary beyond, guns do make a difference, but if the shot is missed, you can still see what the planes are capable of.

i will add a few subtle insights - you'll notice at times in the scissors especially, i'll either try and slow down under their nose,  or if speed allows, go upwards more. the goal being hopefully they lose SA on you. this again is a reminder of how important throttle and flap control are in certain situations you'll find yourself in.

these files disappear after a certain amount of time w/o a new download.  <shrug>

was fun bat.   

It would be extremely helpful for "students of the fine art of ACM" if "film producers" would also narrate whilst performing maneuvers. You must remember that some students think it's all smoke & mirrors.   

[Shane]

I agree, but it's not one of my otherwise mad skillz.     plenty of capable peanut gallery-ers can chime in.

they were mostly scissors and yo-yo's with the occasional prop hanging wingovers, with intensive stick/throttle/flap management.

the best chance a fw has vs any of the spits is in the rolling scissors.  if the spit can manage to take it either more vertical or into a sustained flat-turn, then the FW better get a kill fast or look for an oppt'y to extend and reacquire e for a new merge.

[PFactorDave]

It would be extremely helpful for "students of the fine art of ACM" if "film producers" would also narrate whilst performing maneuvers. You must remember that some students think it's all smoke & mirrors.   

Perhaps even go back after the fact and voice over an explanation of what you were doing/thinking throughout the engagement.

[mechanic]

Good fun shane cheers. Remember when you watch the films that when either of us flew the spit we were doing it to test the 190, not kill it as fast as possible. Don't expect an experienced spitfire to make it this simple every time. Still didn't always go to plan for the 190