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Offline john9001

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2007, 05:30:16 PM »
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ...It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

your right, the "administration" is full of liars.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2007, 05:43:14 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2007, 05:46:53 PM »
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Amazing. In a speech to soldiers about the Iraq war, terrorism, and the great job they're doing, he repeatedly mentioned Iraq (where the most publicized part of the fight is), Al Queada (the most well known terrorist group), Osama Bin Laden (figurehead of the most well known terrorist group), and 11 September 2001 (the date the most well known terrorist attack so far). Well, Hell, I guess it's just excessive, ain't it? For the life of me, I just can't understand why a person giving a speech would repeatedly mention things pertaining to the subject of the speech. That's just absurd.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2007, 06:02:51 PM »
so RPM, when it comes time to convert to islam are you going to be sunni or she-ite?
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2007, 06:23:03 PM »
They've got a really good point that many people in the government throw these terms around and incite fear with them.  The administration wrongly implied before the war that there was an Al-qaeda link with Iraq, which was just pathetic  to anyone who really knew something about Saddam Hussein.  That they keep bringing 9/11 up so often is truly reason for concern, even if their discussion of it in the context of international terrorism is warranted.  

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2465701035380716367&q=republican+national+convention+terror&total=18&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

The US and the world in general would be a hell of a lot better off if someone was making foreign policy that didn't have their head up their ass.  No, I don't mean the Democrats either!

This doesn't mean that the war on terrorism is a joke, but it's certainly not what's been painted in the Media, mostly at the urging or direct planting of the administration.  I truly believe that sanity will only come to American foreign policy after a general no-confidence vote in all three branches of government, if that were even possible.
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2007, 06:40:25 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2007, 07:12:19 PM »
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All excellent, non biased, well verified news sources. Hysteria and paranoia are your friends.
I learned it from the Bush Administration.

John, I'll convert to Islam as soon as I start practicing a religion in the first place. This "my God's better than your God" nonsense is just that.
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2007, 07:13:14 PM »
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Okie dokie.
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html
http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/
http://liesofbush.com/iraq-Lies.shtml
http://www.bushlies.net/
http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/57889/
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/30/bush-lies-about-iraq-spending-deadline/
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/052105.html
http://www.impeachbush.tv/args/iraqlies.html
Google is your friend.


All points that have be hashed and rehashed repeatedly on this board. The fact that some things the administration said turned out to be untrue, does not make them lies. If US intel showed they were true and thats what the administration was going by, then they didn't lie.

When they became aware that the intel on various things became known to be false or exagerated is open for debate and we likely won't know the truth of it for many, many years when documents are declassified.

You can choose to believe they are lies if you wish, I'll wait till I see evidence before I try, convict and sentence. :)
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2007, 07:18:47 PM »
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The administration wrongly implied before the war that there was an Al-qaeda link with Iraq,


I think that is an implication that folks choose to see. I certainly didn't see it although I can see how some folks could, I just don't read there statements as having that implication.
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2007, 07:19:12 PM »
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Ms. Clinton seems to twist as needed to prosper in whatever the current political winds are.  When checking her opinion, you can save time by just looking at what's the popular sentiment right now.  Polling is her rudder, you can extrapolate her course just by tracking community consensus.

I'm still leaning heavily towards R. Paul, myself.


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He seems like one of the few politicians who hasn't been completely corrupted by popular opinion and...politics.
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2007, 07:19:24 PM »
Their was never a Link between Bin Laden and Saddam, on the contrary,Laden coudn't stand Saddam who he considered an Athieist who saw islamic fundamentalists like Laden a threat to power.  


   Once Bush invaded and removed Saddam,he went on to remove the whole regime and dismantle the army the very thing that had kept Laden in check once removed,allowed the mad mullahs to come crawling out of the woodwork...The result is what we have today...Bin Laden must be Laughing his head off,Bush did him a favour,creating the perfect situation for Terrorist fudamentalists to thrive.Bush is the best recruiting sargent for Terrorists that Iraq Has.

   Bush has continually tried to form a Link with 9 11 Bin Laden and Iraq,to justify his invasion,and  make it palatable to the American ppl,and the poor soldiers fighting there.


                       Even Bushes own neo cons are finding him and his shabby jolly in the middle East an embarrasment.

  He's lying to those soldiers and to the American ppl,History is not going to be kind to G. W Bush. ;)
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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2007, 07:30:01 PM »
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I learned it from the Bush Administration.

John, I'll convert to Islam as soon as I start practicing a religion in the first place. This "my God's better than your God" nonsense is just that.


you will convert when you feel the sword on the back of your neck.
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2007, 08:32:08 PM »
RPM, thanks for those links, some good reading there!

It just gets deeper and deeper!!
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2007, 09:21:48 PM »
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you will convert when you feel the sword on the back of your neck.
When I see a bunch of guys wearing black bedsheets and carrying swords I'm proud to be a Texan. I may be praying, but it will be to Smith & Wesson.

Play the fear card all you can while you can John. Your boi is a lame duck. It will take decades to undo the harm he has done to this country, but America will heal just like it did after the last wave of fear mongering, flag waving zealots lead by Senator McCarthy.
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2007, 09:42:37 PM »
You're right, RPM. America will heal. Let's just hope one knee-jerk doesn't invite another.
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