Best point defense fighter

[Benny Moore]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Also, the notion that the only reason to fly the P-38 in AH is because you have an obsession with it, is also misleading.  For some, that might be the reason they fly it but in reality and in AH, the P-38 is one of the better fighters in the game and extremely deadly and very hard to beat when it's flown by an experienced P-38 driver.

It's true that the P-38 is a good ship in Aces High II.  However, it is not a great ship because there are a fairly large number of ships which the P-38 cannot win against in an equal fight (at least without going to some crazy altitude at which almost no one flies), assuming that the pilots are both equally skilled and know their ship equally well.  These include, but are not limited to, the Spitfire Mark XVI, the F4U-4, the Yak-9U, and the La-7.  I'm aware that you believe that you can beat anything in your '38, but the fact is that you can only beat those ships (and others) when they are flown by an inferior pilot.  Why is that?  It's because they out-do the P-38 in all of the areas which really matter in a dogfight, including speed, climb, instantaneous turn, sustained turn, and acceleration.  Roll and dive doesn't cut it, as the FW-190A-8 proves.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Benny Moore
I'm aware that you believe that you can beat anything in your '38, but the fact is that you can only beat those ships (and others) when they are flown by an inferior pilot.  

I just go by the experience and knowledge I've gained in 13+ years of playing online combat flight sims, not just by flying offline sims like IL2 or MSCFS.  From my experience, you are incorrect in your assertion that a P-38 pilot will only be successful against those planes you mentioned if they are driven by inexperienced players.  But as with all things in life, YMMV.


ack-ack

[Spikes]

I use IIC, IL2s, and...oddly enough, an F4F/FM2 for base defense.

[DweebFire]

I find that I can use my spitfire but the F4U is a tough opponent when it's capping. That thing can go into a scissors and make u overshoot and even if you're in a spitfire XVI, it can just dive, gain some E and come back. And don't even get me started on its flaps at low speed.

My friend and I both flew spit16s and i beat him. then he tried the F4U-1A and outscissored me completely. What is it about those F4U's..? I thought the Spit16 was master of scissors and vertical maneuvers (with exception to the P-38's vertical zooming)

[CAP1]

Originally posted by DweebFire
Hey all. Just got my butt handed to me in 8 player.

Apologies again Awcan. I honestly did not want to crash into you so many times heheh.

At any rate, I found the spitfire to lack energy fighting abilities and that my buddies said the P-38 was a better point defence fighter that could climb well enough and stalls were gentler than single engine aircraft.

Do you believe the P-38 is a good point defense fighter when launching from a base in order to protect a base about 12 miles away thats getting capped by a  spit 16 for example? If so, which P-38?

Thanks!

apparently i misunderstood your question..i thought u were just wanting advice on the 38's.....

if i'm tryin to up at a capped field, it's gonna either be one of the spits, a hurri2, or a zeke(although i can't shoot from it too well). if i get vulched once, i up from another field and try to sneak up on em....i never let myself get vulched more than once....ever.

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[DweebFire]

Yes, my conversations do randomly change subject.

Thanks for the advice all.

[evenhaim]

i have time :
p51d
c205
190a5
tempest

if its a quick roll:
p51b
fm2
p40e
109k4-109f4
spit V
maybe even a p38g once in a blue moon

[FX1]

Spit 16 hands down.. Hard to beat in a vert, there are only three other planes in the game that can equal a spit in the vert. Its a great all around fighter..

What it really comes down to is experience and using each plane strength to your benefit.

If i were you fly the n1k its much forgiving than a spit 16 and has a better ammo load. It will also teach you to use flaps..

I dont fear any p38's co alt in my 16.. Pilots skill doesnt play much of a factor with that fight.. A high 38 can give you fits in the correct hands.

[JimBeam]

i use spit9/16 109G series hurri 11C and Ki-84
if im feeling alittle cocky or have been drinking nothing more fun than a p40 or a spit mk1

[SgtPappy]

You could always try the F4U... provided you know how to dodge and vector roll. When I do fly the occasional Spitfire, I prefer the Mk.VIII. It doesn't flip over as easily as a Spitfire XVI and, well, it looks like the good old Spitfires out of my child hood books! Performance is somewhere near the XVI anyway. It mainly lacks the roll rate.

[FX1]

The 16 guns are better..

[SgtPappy]

... the 8's wings are stronger

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You should never get that fast..

[SgtPappy]

... or SHOULD you?   Besides, the handling characteristics at super low speeds seems a tad better. Extra fuel ftw!

[FX1]

Point blank the 16 will win the fight. We have da it to death and the 16 comes out on top..