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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2007, 09:12:10 PM »
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Saw it tonight on DVD

Wife borrowed it from the son of a friend of hers.

I'll hold back a bit and be nice in my review of this movie.

Glad I didnt pay actual money to see this piece of trash in the movies or to buy the DVD

FAR easier to list what was good about the movie then what sucked,,which on the suckville scale ranked at about a 90%

Best thing about this movie was some of the boobie shots and a couple moments in the battle scenes and the overall acting wasnt terrible.

Other then that.
Horrid.

Makers of this movie took poetic licence to a new low.
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Overall filming was nothing short of atrociously annoying.

They say on a typical Hollywood movie the target audience is something like 14-25 year olds. (who would be much better served picking up and actually reading a history book)

I'd say they were shooting for a target audience of 10-17 year olds in spite of the R rating.

Unless The "R" rating stands for "Rancid"

They took what was all by itself a naturally GREAT story
And butchered it to  more resemble a poorly made cross between Star wars (complete with Darth Vader breathing sounds) And a butcher job of Lord of the Rings.

The only type of person I could even imagine this movie appealing to would be probably either very young, completely wasted on acid. or have an IQ of about 2 and on a 3 day drunk.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2007, 09:55:40 PM »
I saw most of it today. The Daughter and Son in law had it. She hates it but the Son in Law loves it. I left before the hunchback traitor attacked.

The effects were nice but stale and rather predictible. They borrowed stuff from all over didn't they. The Roman phalanx which the king claimed was so important, and didn't use in the movie. Not to mention the come back with your shield or on it phrase.

Then there was the mutants, the fire bombs, the gunpowder grenades, the rhino and elephants not to mention the hunchback. I was waiting for the sharks with frikkin laser beams on their heads to show up. Yep it's all in there alright.

It didn't hold my interest. Tacky, predictable and monochrome just like sin city. Very very forgettable.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2007, 10:04:52 PM »
I bought it last Saturday and watched it for the first time on Tuesday.    Quite simply an amazing adaptation of the greatest last stand in History.     The use of tactics was nice to see, the Spartans were the best fighters of the period.    

I thought it was a great flick and am glad that I bought it.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2007, 10:16:01 PM »
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Good piece of cinema.

Horrible, disgusting and wretched piece of history.

Don't take a single thing in it as fact, many are misled by its semi-historical basis.


It was adapted from a graphic novel (grown up comic book :p )...  So historical accuracy is left at the wayside and not the main agenda of the film.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2007, 10:58:42 PM »
watched about 5 minutes before i lost interest. txdad enjoyed it though.
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2007, 11:14:35 PM »
DREDIOCK pretty much nailed it! Although I think his IQ rating was a bit high.

Wife bought it on the advise of her girlfriends and we had "new movie night".

She fell asleep half way through ... I had a good book ... so I managed to sit through the whole thing.

The R rating had to be for just plain rank.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2007, 01:47:39 AM »
I didn't like it. They also showed it on a flight I took. I watched 30 minutes and chose TMNT instead...
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2007, 03:16:43 AM »
DREDIOCK

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It was adapted from a graphic novel (grown up comic book :p )...  So historical accuracy is left at the wayside and not the main agenda of the film.


I don't give a damn if it was based on a comic book.  If it purports to be history and botches it sooooo terribly as this 'film' has there is no excuse.  Now a whole generation of zit faced wieners will think they know some history because they saw the movie.

A comic book origin wouldn't excuse the last samurai either.

A comic book or 'graphic novel' as some might like to embellish can still be a decent presentation of history.  If the comic basis is anything like this movie it should be burned.

As a historian it truly saddens me when people half bellybutton history.  Naturally, no film can be completely historical, but lots of directors/producers at least try, and many produce remarkable works.  This made only enough effort to rape the flavor right out of history and make people think it was historical.  

I doubt Spartans would have been so kind to their females.  It exhibits very modern notions of gender relations.  

Ninjas?  C'mon.  The 'immortals' are based on real units in the Persian army, but that's just ridiculous.

The Spartans didn't scare off the Persians.  They didn't kill the whole Persian army.  They held them back long enough so their supplies were exhausted and they had to withdraw or let their army starve.  One who thinks this movie is good would be wise to study the true nature of military strategy in the ancient period.  

The makers of this movie should have a grabastic circle with terentino.  He cares about history and reality just about as much.

And, btw, the Phalanx was Greek, not Roman.  Roman's used different and more adaptable formations that became the next generation of combat tactics.  The Phalanx could only go so far with its rigidity.  

Not even sure I'd go so far as to call it "the greatest last stand in history", nor can the Greeks be universally called the best fighters of the period.

In many ways, with its amalgamation of folk lore and different cultural heritage LOTR was more historical.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2007, 03:16:54 AM »
those people calling it the best film ever have obviously never seen any other movie.

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2007, 03:37:48 AM »
Transformers = 300 = Computer Game without the interactivity
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2007, 04:36:14 AM »
I was in LA recently, chatted with one of 300's producers.

She said that those muscles were painted on - was filmed in Vancouver in January and everybody froze :D

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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2007, 05:11:16 AM »
firebombs as someone called it were actually historical. Naphta ( stuff used later in the lamps) was used as a form of a granade in historical times.

I guess you have to enjoy it for what it really is - movie based on comic book rather then history. Because historically there are 7000 Athenians and other greeks missing :)

Red headed chick in the temple was HOT HOT HOT though :D

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2007, 05:58:09 AM »
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Not even sure I'd go so far as to call it "the greatest last stand in history", nor can the Greeks be universally called the best fighters of the period.

In many ways, with its amalgamation of folk lore and different cultural heritage LOTR was more historical.
Hmm, so holding off a first wave of almost 10,000 Perisans and losing 2-3 Spartans is nothing.   Forcing the 2nd wave with 50,000 Persians to retreat is nothing.    Yeah, forcing a huge Army to "fight the fight your way" and holding out is nothing.  

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2007, 07:00:42 AM »
Masherbrum - the main 'historian' of antiquity who talks about Thermopylae was also apt to record fantastical things such as lake dwelling men etc.

Perhaps you shouldn't believe all you read. ;)

There was no history in the modern sense in aquity. It was verbally communcated and therefore embellished for dramatic effect. Even the Roman's exploits are not completely recorded and there are few sources.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2007, 07:59:30 AM »
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Masherbrum - the main 'historian' of antiquity who talks about Thermopylae was also apt to record fantastical things such as lake dwelling men etc.

Perhaps you shouldn't believe all you read. ;)

There was no history in the modern sense in aquity. It was verbally communcated and therefore embellished for dramatic effect. Even the Roman's exploits are not completely recorded and there are few sources.
I'm not saying it as Gospel, however, the numbers have been deemed close.  

But to think "some of us watched 300 for it's historical accuracy" is beyond ludicrous.
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