Way past time for some new maps.

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by NHawk
I didn't take it as having anything to do with my map.

Sorry, seeing you posting that made me deduce too much.

What I begin to wonder is how many maps are enough? It already takes a good amount of time to go through the rotation and each added map increases that time.

What Toad said. It's not having many maps, it's about having good maps. And, yes, that would mean leaving some of the ones we have now out of rotation. Honestly, I don't think you'll hear complaints because "Uterus", Baltic or the Beta map have been put out of rotation (of course, I may be plainly wrong about this).

And there is much more involved than just changing terrain textures. Snow and tropical terrains would require the buildings to be retextured and trees would need to be modeled. Skins would also need to be made for snow terrains. These are all "custom objects" in the TE, so unless they were made a standard choice they would be unlikely to ever appear in the MAs.

Remember, the MAs are made to allow everyone to play. Even the lower end systems with slow dial-up connections. A terrain completely customized would be a huge download for dial-up.

Yes, what you said it's true. And I've always wondered why HTC didn't give us standard tiles with desert or snow. Right now, we have people that makes custom tiles and objects, we could use them.

Of course, that would bring up the matter of the file size. I didn' think about dial-up people, my bad, but, honestly, I don't even think it would be such a big issue: one of the biggest map, with a lot of custom objects, Karelia, has a dimension of 27 Mb. A MA small map, should be less than that, that is an affordable download even for dial-up people.
And, better yet, if I didn't misunderstand, there would be no issue at all, if HTC made those tiles and objects standard... it shouldn't be that difficult, as I said, many terrain makers have already built a lot of them, HTC should only review and approve them.

Maybe my perception is wrong and I think that the whole process is a lot less difficult than it actually is, but, if so, please, correct me and explain.

[knuckels]

Why dont we vote on maps like we do plane sets..........?.........knuckels

[Kami]

I would love to see some terrain changes.  The maps all look the same to me.  Same color water, same trees, bushes, and same light green-dark green grid everywhere.  The only difference is the amount of bumps and water....

I'd enjoy some desert, snow, tropical locales.  I think I remember a little map a guy made of a tropical island that was quite beautiful.  Before that I didn't realize how good the graphics could be for this game, it really was astounding.  I'm not saying use that map (it was small) but his terrain was incredible.


edit:  found a link to that map.  Great Job Croduh.  Here is his original thread.  Like I said, don't use this map obviously, but it's an indication to how different ah2 could look depending on the terrain. http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209257

and a picture for the lazy:

[Vudak]

Is there some sort of copyright infringement thingy that would prevent us from bringing back the ol' AW maps while we're at it?

Maybe with a few more bases, sure...  But those maps seem to have provided enough action for years.

[Toad]

At the very least, can someone add some more islands to Uterus with ports on them? Another port or even two for each country on that map would liven things up.

At the very minimum, change the airfields on the islands to ports.

CV action is great and the more the better.

Uterus is stagnant.

[BaldEagl]

Part of the problem is that half of the maps we play on have been in play since I started in 2001.

[Yknurd]

I like Rinfus and the map with snow on it used for the German-Russo war in the AvA.

[rogerdee]

i talked to Skuzzy a few months ago after the new terrain changes.

he hinted very heavey that HTC were looking at a way for people to submit some tiles for the different seasons .eg spring  autum ect.

if  we could get some standard tiles for winter and autum  it could change the out look of the maps.

even as others have said some tropical terrains and desert terrains would be nice too.

but the main problem is that every map has to be kept as simple as possiable so everyone can enjoy the game.A large number off task groups means more work for the server and more work on your pc with it keep being updated

There are some new maps being built but the process of building and getting them accepted is not as quick as people hope

[Anyone]

Originally posted by Toad
At the very least, can someone add some more islands to Uterus with ports on them? Another port or even two for each country on that map would liven things up.

At the very minimum, change the airfields on the islands to ports.

CV action is great and the more the better.

Uterus is stagnant.

problem with that map is everyone gets stuck at A19/A1 and the rest of the map is left free to be taken by the country no where near those two bases (top right). The map itself could be very good, GV spawns make it good, Airwar happens above the base, tanks take the bases by land, whoever wins the airwar gets there tanks coverd and the base taken...  which is a good way of map design....

only issue is, airfields are way too spread out, lack of ports, and lack of Vbases.

the map will be much better with more bases filling the voids, and a maybe 3 more islands in the center

[Hap]

We had Trinity, Big Isles, all the little maps, and Pizza, there was once quite a variety.

[LTAReagl]

Honestly, and I may be murdered for this, but I would rather have more new maps instead of the B-25.  Granted I would like to have my cake and eat it too and have both, but I think the point that everyone is trying to make is that the new map is great (wtg and on it) but it's the only breath of fresh air we've had in relation to maps in a while.  Now, there are a lot of maps in the rotation, however, how long have we been playing on these?!?!  I'm here to tell ya that it's been a lot longer than the two weeks HTC standard:D .  I just think that in order to keep this game fun and challenging, we need new maps.  Maybe add more and take the old maps off for a while.  Then when we start saying," Man, we haven't seen the old maps for a while, I kinda miss them," then bring them back for a while.  Just a little variety would be good.  I know that there are a lot of guys out there that can and probably have made some really great maps, but it just seems that they never get to see any MA play.  

I vote yes for more new maps!!  

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by rogerdee
i talked to Skuzzy a few months ago after the new terrain changes.

he hinted very heavey that HTC were looking at a way for people to submit some tiles for the different seasons .eg spring  autum ect.



There are some new maps being built but the process of building and getting them accepted is not as quick as people hope

Great news, I think that having new standard tiles shouldn't take that long, given that some good map maker already did great ones. Someone tells Croduh to mail Skuzzy!

[Iron_Cross]

I agree, we need more maps.  As for taking some maps out of rotation, yes some need to go.  Uterus for an example, the game-play is stale, and predictable.  However to get maps taken out of rotation, you need new maps to fill in.  It is sort of a catch-22, to remove some bad maps, good maps have to be submitted, but some more bad maps are submitted as well as some good maps.  

Some maps don't intentionally come out bad.  Uterus for example, I can tell the reason why it was designed the way it was.  The designer wanted a narrow front, so the fights would naturally be concentrated along those narrow bands of land between countries.  The single CV group, and island base, was to keep the Navy guys happy, and to provide a way to circumvent the narrow front.

To combat the stale rotation schedule, twice as many maps are needed at a minimum, and more like four times as many as now for an optimum rotation.  Change the map rotation every 6-8 weeks, and ta'da no more ******ing about the same maps every time.

The bottom line is, maps.  Maps need to be made and submitted.  Instead of complaining about the maps, go get the stuff and make some yourself.  Submit them to Hitech.  You need to stop complaining and fix the problem yourself.

[Citabria]

i miss festerma and ozkansas

these are medium sized maps on a 512 area not using full area.

if ever a pair of big maps fit in current small map chain its these two.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Citabria
i miss festerma and ozkansas

these are medium sized maps on a 512 area not using full area.

if ever a pair of big maps fit in current small map chain its these two.

Those two are my alltime favs!!

Who made those?...............