Author Topic: Articles of Impeachment (Read 1175 times)

culero · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:13:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
crockett, i think we can be good citizens and not agree with you on impeachment

...and not need to vegetate in front of a TV in order to do our part.

crockett · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:35:36 PM »

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Originally posted by culero
...and not need to vegetate in front of a TV in order to do our part.

So you try to say I presume to know something about about you.. Yet you seem to think you know something about me? By claiming I must watch too much TV?

Funny stuff there bud..

crockett · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:44:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
crockett, i think we can be good citizens and not agree with you on impeachment

I never said you had to agree with me, I said the people of this country need to learn it's their duty to hold their govt in check. Not to let the govt hold them in check.

What I said was in response to him stating it's was a waste of time to listen to an argument for Impeachment. You may not agree with it, but to not listen to argument is basically turning a blind eye to anything you don't agree with.

Regardless if it's politics or what ever.. not being open minded and willing to hear both sides of an argument is rather a naive thing to do.

If you can listen to an argument and then come back with your own argument as to why you don't support it. Well, at that point, I'm all for it and I can respect that. However to prejudge something before you even listen to it or watch it and try to commit your views on it.. lol well that's rather silly to put it nicely.

crockett · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:53:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Halo
People yapping about "impeaching" Bush and Cheney are too often wannabes wanting to be close to power without being responsible for it, to expand a classic indictment against strutting journalists.

The whiners haven't been able to prematurely end the current reign for 6 1/2 years, so maybe they can wait another 18 months until the elected leaders' terms expire unless life as they imagine it otherwise will cease before then.

What will really tighten their knickers is a good chance that a majority of voters will endorse the Republican legacy and elect successors of the same ilk.

Did you happen to notice, that one of the two guests, was Republican conservative named Bruce Fein the former deputy attorney general under President Ronald Reagan.

He was the very first guy to file Articles of Impeachment on Bill Clintion. I'd say he likely isn't a wannabe or a whiner.

If you watch the video, you might understand why there is a need for it now, and why we should not to wait another 18 months. If the changes to the presidency that have happened under Bush aren't put in check now. The changes will be passed along to the next president, they don't go away in 18 months like the president does.

Would you want Hillary Clinton or Brock Obama to have un checked wire tap ability? Do you want them to be able to hide anything they do and claim it's because of the war on terrorism?

What if they decide we need stricter rules against guns and use Bush's precedent and claim it because of the war on terrorism.

If these things are left unchecked, you never know what the next presidency will use his/her powers for.

bj229r · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:56:23 PM »

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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
Just curious... but did either of you (Yknurd and Bj229r) actually watch the video before commenting on this thread?

I'm not picking a fight... I'm just curious. And no, i haven't watched the flick yet so I have no comment for the OP.

nah im dialup, cant watch such things---i merely noted the subject( impeaching Bush) and the medium (tax-payer funded TV)

Yknurd · « **Reply #20 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:59:19 PM »

HAH!

You're like that dude that kept posting about the P47 being wrong 'cause he watched some one-hour show on the History channel.

Other people on other boards have posted about this video. Therefore you presume a lot to say that I haven't seen it before because I posted ten minutes after your post. Very ego-centric to say the least.

As to my duty to blah, blah, blah...I don't recall there being any Bill of Duties. I have the right to do...absolutely nothing. That's right. I have the right to absolutely nothing if I so choose.

You sound like those types of people who scream, "The public has a right to be informed!!!"

Thank you for your time and your hackneyed words but Good Day!

john9001 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 12, 2007, 02:59:39 PM »

i will be glad when hillary is elected and all this librule whining stops, then we can make fun of horny billy again.

crockett · « **Reply #22 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:03:23 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
nah im dialup, cant watch such things---i merely noted the subject( impeaching Bush) and the medium (tax-payer funded TV)

Yea silly that a tax funded program on TV should ask any tough questions or have any thoughts on how our govt should run.

tedrbr · « **Reply #23 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:03:27 PM »

You all are dreaming.

The Democrats are NOT going to actually impeach the President or VP. They are the rally cry for the Democrats in 2008 to try and gather more seats in the house. The lower the President's public opinion polls drop, the better the Democrats like it. The "evil Republican" they can wave like a bloody shirt to the American public.

Second reason not to impeach = President Nancy Pelosi.

moot · « **Reply #24 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:07:22 PM »

The public keeps the govt in check by voting the right guys in, in the first place.

Dago · « **Reply #25 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:09:14 PM »

Are those whiners whimpering for impeachment also pushing to impeach Hillary and the other demondorks who voted to go to war in Iraq?

crockett · « **Reply #26 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:14:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Yknurd

Other people on other boards have posted about this video. Therefore you presume a lot to say that I haven't seen it before because I posted ten minutes after your post. Very ego-centric to say the least.
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Yes because your first post in this topic so full of thought and left me with so much to presume about you.

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Originally posted by Yknurd

As to my duty to blah, blah, blah...I don't recall there being any Bill of Duties. I have the right to do...absolutely nothing. That's right. I have the right to absolutely nothing if I so choose.
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And that's exactly why our govt is the way it is today. Too many people whom choose to do nothing. So keep using your right to do nothing.. You're right it's your right..

Why not use that right to post nothing in this topic?

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Originally posted by Yknurd
You sound like those types of people who scream, "The public has a right to be informed!!!"

Thank you for your time and your hackneyed words but Good Day!

Yea who would have ever thought the public has a right to be informed about what our govt does..

tedrbr · « **Reply #27 on:** August 12, 2007, 03:37:32 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
The public keeps the govt in check by voting the right guys in, in the first place.

This is sarcasm, right?

Actually, a small percentage of the total number of eligible voters,..... that actually bother to register and get out to vote come election day,.... do the voting. A significant number of those voters vote straight ticket without getting into the details of an election. Many of the rest vote according to popularity or name recognition, so whomever has the biggest contribution from special interests tends to have more name recognition.

A very few vote for particular candidates for particular reasons related to important issues.

Now we also have to consider electronic voting machines owned by foreign companies potentially skewing some results.

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Dago Are those whiners whimpering for impeachment also pushing to impeach Hillary and the other demondorks who voted to go to war in Iraq?

Most of Congress would have to impeach themselves then. If you check the voting record, most of those in Congress now, that were in Congress when that vote was taken, voted FOR the invasion of Iraq. THAT was what was popular with the public THEN. There was still a lot of vengeful feelings and blood lust in the United States then. War was the popular move. Those that came out too strongly against a war in Iraq, then, found themselves outcasts.

What a lot of people don't understand is, even with some term limits, the turnover rate among members of Congress is lower than the old Politburo under Soviet Russia. Those good ol' boys been in there a while.

moot · « **Reply #28 on:** August 12, 2007, 04:05:59 PM »

Idealism in reply to the surprise that Joe Public can't do much once one or many politicians go astray. In other words, that impeachment is too little too late.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 12, 2007, 05:38:19 PM »

Any government agent can be impeached for anything. Now, to be convicted of anything, is a completely different matter.