Author Topic: Government funding of the arts: For or against? (Read 5211 times)

Toad · « **Reply #75 on:** August 18, 2007, 10:50:38 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Support for the arts is not charity, no matter what link you might dig up Toad.

You want art? Contribute personally.

Show me somewhere in the Constitution where it says the Government is allowed to fund art.

I can wait.

AKIron · « **Reply #76 on:** August 18, 2007, 10:52:12 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
its not just the money...its the scapegoating. its the fear...the greatest sign of weakness that i know of.

This country grows more socialist every passing year. I am afraid for my grandchildren. You and the other frogs go ahead and stay in the pot if you will but the water is getting too hot for me.

Toad · « **Reply #77 on:** August 18, 2007, 10:55:27 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr

You are begrudging an expenditure of 0.006% of the total budget. That's just 6 cents out of every $1,000 dollars spent.

Begrudging? Nope.

Just pointing out that, to paraphrase Everett Dirksen, a billion here and a billion there and pretty soon you're talking real money.

It's not just art or any one thing. It's every little thing taken together.

The government needs to stick to doing what the Constitution allows it to do. It has grown and grown and grown and its appetite for power is insatiable.

It's long past time to put it back in its place.

JB88 · « **Reply #78 on:** August 18, 2007, 10:57:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Begrudging? Nope.

Just pointing out that, to paraphrase Everett Dirksen, a billion here and a billion there and pretty soon you're talking real money.

It's not just art or any one thing. It's every little thing taken together.

The government needs to stick to doing what the Constitution allows it to do. It has grown and grown and grown and its appetite for power is insatiable.

It's long past time to put it back in its place.

ya. so start with arts funding which has already been paired down to a skeleton and forget about the bloated military industrial complex or corporate leeching.

i guess it's pick the battle you can win huh?

may as well avoid the bother.

JB88 · « **Reply #79 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:00:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
This country grows more socialist every passing year. I am afraid for my grandchildren. You and the other frogs go ahead and stay in the pot if you will but the water is getting too hot for me.

where is all of the money really going? are the "frogs" taking it or is it the supposed conservatives who have opened the floodgates to drown your grandchildren with the current form of patriotic over reaching?

i mean really.

Toad · « **Reply #80 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:08:41 PM »

Well, you an look at it that way or you can stand up and say this has got to stop.

I would not be in favor of cutting just Federal funding for art.

I would be in favor of cutting ALL Federal funding not allowed by our Constitution. All. Right now.

Art is merely one small example. If that were all that would be cut, it would serve no purpose.

It's time to reign in this monster we have allowed to dominate our lives.

Or, you can just go along with the ever increasing power and ever expanding size of the Federal government. Your kids will thank you. Your grandkids will glorify you. NOT!

AKIron · « **Reply #81 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:14:17 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
where is all of the money really going? are the "frogs" taking it or is it the supposed conservatives who have opened the floodgates to drown your grandchildren with the current form of patriotic over reaching?

i mean really.

Ditto what Toad just said.

There's only a certain amount of money to be had, without destroying our way of of life. I think it's the nature of all government to want all of it which it then redistributes as those in charge see fit. It's got to be in the nature of freedom loving people to resist this.

JB88 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:14:35 PM »

i think we should reign it in. i also think that the constitution allows it by granting for the general welfare of the people.

i think it should be fiscally responsible.

it all should be.

this is hardly where it is causing a problem. not even close.

AKIron · « **Reply #83 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:18:30 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
i think we should reign it in. i also think that the constitution allows it by granting for the general welfare of the people.

i think it should be fiscally responsible.

it all should be.

this is hardly where it is causing a problem. not even close.

Not even close for whom? Over taxation most certainly has been a problem for me and I'm sure many others feel the same.

JB88 · « **Reply #84 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:18:32 PM »

dorthea lang - great american commie

JB88 · « **Reply #85 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:19:04 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Not even close for whom? Over taxation most certainly has been a problem for me and I'm sure many others feel the same.

is art overtaxing you iron? poor fella. art can be so mean sometimes.

Toad · « **Reply #86 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:20:50 PM »

Well, we disagree.

I don't think it passes the necessary test.

I think we could survive as a nation without it and without a lot of other things we throw money at.

But there's too damn much government in the US. The Feds are only part of it. The little State wannabees are a problem too.

The Constitution is a really a pretty simple document. It's just been abused and subverted by some greedy people.

I think we're about past the point where we can do anything about it though. There won't be rebellion in the streets. Sheep don't rebel.

AKIron · « **Reply #87 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:24:15 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
is art overtaxing you iron? poor fella. art can be so mean sometimes.

For you it's art, for another it's a free meal, for someone else it's free rent, for yet another, free health care. As I mentioned early on, communism will not work. Just like the people who aren't allowed to reap the benefits of their own labors.

JB88 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:29:29 PM »

i think we could do without an offensive military operation when we cant even be bothered to defend the integrity of our own borders...but thats so unimportant compared to some art that got made 15 years ago that people keep dredging up that i have to waste time defending a 170 million dollar part of the budget that pales in comparison to the hundreds of BILLIONS that are being ripped from us annually for a foreign military intervention that most of the citizens never thought was a workable solution in the first place. what about their money?

JB88 · « **Reply #89 on:** August 18, 2007, 11:31:04 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
For you it's art, for another it's a free meal, for someone else it's free rent, for yet another, free health care. As I mentioned early on, communism will not work. Just like the people who aren't allowed to reap the benefits of their own labors.

show me one person making a living on nea grants.

one.