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Offline SirLoin

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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2001, 12:37:00 PM »
How about,if you are not in a squad,you cannot fly for country with largest numbers.It would promote squad play and play balance...eg.."You Are Unable To Join Country Selected,please try Knights or Rooks".. :)
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« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2001, 12:37:00 PM »
By that logic... is Animal actually Creamo?

Analmal is not me...

Animal is a big O.J. supporter, and also unlike me, he likes "token white chicks."

Plus he's stupid, shady, wears plaid pants,  and is annoying.

Kinda like a rollerskating rink manager, who sells used cars on the weekend.

Nope.

(holy toejam, I just backflipped out of my super computer chair laughing at my screwdriver induced parody there...fllluurrrrblap!  :)  )

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« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2001, 10:13:00 AM »
toad.... imagine if I had said that about LW guys.  I have thot it and know it to be true.  Who wants to fly with a bunc of LW guys anyhow?   They are not only complainers but boring as well.

You say that you have been bish from day one.. I would suggest you try the rooks if for nothing else, perspective.   I have found that most of em seem to be pretty easy natured.   I spend a lot of time laughing (or cursing) as a rook but that has to do with being on RW with squaddies.   The BK's are the least organized and most fun oriented of any squad I've seen.   I have yet to see anything resembling a "mission" except "let's kill those so and so's at____".  
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« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2001, 11:45:00 AM »
Laz, not sure what/which post you're referring to with "had said that about LW guys."   :) Can't agree or disagree with ya as yet.

Perspective? I think the rooks are probably about the same as the bish. With the old rook squads rotating thru, I haven't seen much difference. I'm sure if those guys hung around, I'd find a few good amigos there too.

It's just who you like flying with I guess. There's about 15-20 particular Bish I really enjoy that seem to fly the times I fly. I'm having fun with them, so I don't really see a need or reason to switch.

AH isn't stagnant for me. I don't get to play as much as I like and when I do I just play. I do what I feel like doing. You can find anything from a 1 v 1 to a massive organzied mission just about anytime if you're willing to search it out. For example, I haven't really buffed in ages. Couple nights ago, that's all I did. Nice change of pace.

How much you enjoy this is really an Internal rather than External experience.
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« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2001, 11:51:00 AM »
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AH isn't stagnant for me. I don't get to play as much as I like and when I do I just play. I do what I feel like doing. You can find anything from a 1 v 1 to a massive organzied mission just about anytime if you're willing to search it out.

How much you enjoy this is really an Internal rather than External experience.


Exact same thing here Toad... I don't really fly as much as I could or would like to, more or less because of choice, not because of the game itself.

When I find myself getting bored doing something, or irritated with something... then I try something new(new plane, new style of flying, a new wingman to fly with.. anything!) and I usually have fun doing it.

For example: Last night was the first time I flew with my squadmate Wabbit in a long time. He was in a P51 and I was in a La5FN... we sat above what must of been 4 or 5 knights or rooks for about 15 minutes zooming towards them, shooting them up, then zooming back up to alt. I got a P47 before I took a La7 head on and went in (though I think I blew off the La7s wing)... 1 kill, and I died... but it was REALLY fun!
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« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2001, 12:03:00 PM »
Some of you just don't seem to get it. Again, last night I log on to AH for a little fun, I hope, and guess what? We have 5 fields, no radar, 30 people, and down to our last island. The bishop hold A17 on our island & are striking A16. What happens? The fekin' rooks strike A11! Yep, logged in disgust. I'm about thru with this.

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« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2001, 12:15:00 PM »
Stop Hoggin' the "Bucket" Rip !!!!

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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2001, 12:30:00 PM »
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Some of you just don't seem to get it. Again, last night I log on to AH for a little fun, I hope, and guess what? We have 5 fields, no radar, 30 people, and down to our last island. The bishop hold A17 on our island & are striking A16. What happens? The fekin' rooks strike A11!

I was on when this happened Apache.  Of course, our radar was up so I know better how much and what happened.

Bish had numbers, but Knits had more on than Rooks.  The rooks were busy defending up in the NorthWest and on the main island.  I know this because I was there.

Basically, if you read your statement... you seem to be maintaining that once country should have left you alone to focus on double teaming the Bish.  I guess I fail to see how this is even remotely a realistic expectation.

Though... eventually the Rooks did leave the knits alone completely and focus only on the Bish.  That was when the knits were down to 2 bases and the Bish would have won the war if there was a reset.  At that time, the Rooks left the knits alone to focus on regaining territory on the bish... basically prolonging the knits stay in the coffin corner.  The current system for resetting really sucks when it gets down to one country only having two bases.

 
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Yep, logged in disgust. I'm about thru with this.

Sorry to hear that.  Kinda wish more people would hang around.  The main problem isn't that people are all flying Bish.. the main problem is that the knits just aren't flying that much.  The numbers are way down.... 35 people during prime time.  Rooks had 29 during prime time.  Bish had a whopping 70.  I just remember this time last month when every country had 70.  The problem isn't that everyone went Bish.

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« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2001, 12:43:00 PM »
Apache, I'm sorry the numbers aren't working out for you guys. I remember times like that, however. (Just not lately   ;) )

Had I been in that situation, I might have grabbed 2 buddies and sent a 2 buff/1 goon mission sneaking out to capture a distant base on somebody else's home island. CavemanJack used to be a master at these ops.

It would remove me from the vultchfests, take a long time (giving me time to chill out about numbers), give me time to chat and would suprise the cr*p out of some folks if it worked. If a reset occurred, it would be a bold opening stroke in the new war.

I guess I just enjoy being in the game and associating with a great group of folks.

I've also had great times when outnumbered. It's sometimes fun (if you're in the mood) to just try and up from a capped base. Ask HBlair about A11 the other night. I musta got drilled 6 times but I finally got off and got some kills. I found that satisfying. But Hey, I play for fun, not glory, so I'm easy.

I'll do this, I promise. I'll concentrate on the opposite side with the most numbers when anyone gets to "home island" defense but I'm staying in Bishland.

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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2001, 12:45:00 PM »
<S> Deja.

Understood about the rooks. I wasn't inferring that we were ganged nor do I care about a double team on the bish, but that the a11 strike was the last nail in the coffin.

It sounds as if you mean leaving us alone with 2 fields is a good thing. Lol, I would rather they just get it over with. At least we can have a little flight time. I guess I bring alot of this on myself. I could TO anyway but, I simply refuse to be vulched. That ain't fun to me. I, however, will be the first to join in in a little vul...er field suppression.

I am curious as to when we all had 70 last tour. This has been going on for the last 2 months for us. Maybe we just log on at different times or something. Oh wait. I must admit. 1 weekend last tour we were about even. Seems that was about, oh, 7 weeks ago  :).

Sorry for my inability to explain myself in type. I'm not thru with AH, just the knight situation.

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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2001, 12:51:00 PM »
Hey Toad my friend.

The problem we have been having is, we can't get off the ground to sneak anywhere, hehe. Every stinking field is a smoking hole in the ground.

Some said last night after the you guys took A7, lets go get it back! One of my squad mates said, "hell, we couldn't keep it the first time, what's the use in trying to get it back". Hehe, that was the highlight of my night.   :)

Don't misunderstand. I'm not advocating anyone rotate anywhere. I need to do something, whether it be rotate out myself or become a tanker, yeck!!

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« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2001, 01:04:00 PM »
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<S> Deja

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Understood about the rooks. I wasn't inferring that we were ganged nor do I care about a double team on the bish, but that the a11 strike was the last nail in the coffin.

I understand.  But it seems it was more just a case of a bad scene staying bad than anything else.  I mean... what were the Rooks supposed to be doing?  I know that doesn't sound like much help, but really...

 
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It sounds as if you mean leaving us alone with 2 fields is a good thing.

I didn't mean to give that impression at all.  I don't like what happens when one country is down to two bases.  I've seen the third country go as far as to help "defend" one of the last two bases just to keep the reset from happening.  Things really need to be adjusted in this aspect.

 
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I am curious as to when we all had 70 last tour. This has been going on for the last 2 months for us. Maybe we just log on at different times or something.

I usually fly during primetime Apache.  Last tour, bish did not kill everyone with numbers.  The AKs were flying Rook and things were pretty even.. especially after the release of 1.07 when numbers went through the roof.

It seems the novelty of the new release is wearing off and its hitting some countries harder than others.  Its turning into something of a snowball effect as now people are refusing to play simply because there aren't enough people playing.

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« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »
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[QB]Apache, I'm sorry the numbers aren't working out for you guys. I remember times like that, however. (Just not lately    ;) )


Sorry , toad, but you've never experienced them for 8 weeks....almost every single stinking night...

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« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2001, 01:52:00 PM »
Rip, with a basic 3 on/ 3 off sked, I'm only around about 1/2 of any month. So, not much seems continual to me.

As I said before, maybe it HAS been 8 weeks for you guys. I don't know.

But I think y'all had better try to figure out WHY no one wants to be Knight and work on that rather than working so dang hard to come up with some sort of auto-balance mechanism in the software.

In the software, all sides are the same. Why don't people play as Knight?

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« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2001, 02:11:00 PM »
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In the software, all sides are the same. Why don't people play as Knight?

It seems to me, just my opinion, that the numbers imbalance has gotten worse since the implementation of the perk system. Kinda ironic since the perk system was touted as a balancing mechanism. Might have something to do with it, just a thought.

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