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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2007, 09:27:23 PM »
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Every time Cheny's name is mentioned all you see is demcrats looking like a dog that want the "ball to be thrown"


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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2007, 11:22:42 PM »
Well, It mat have been a stupid statement, or maybe he was misunderstood.  Either way, if he'd have just shoved the papers down his pants and ran I'm sure we wouldn't be talking about this:aok

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« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2007, 11:25:39 PM »
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I don't have one. Looks like Cheney pulled a "Kerry".
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2007, 11:09:44 AM »
Whoops!  He's not part of the executive branch again:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-lets-leahys-deadline-pass-2007-08-20.html

This really must make billing complicated, which department code does he put into the Xerox?
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2007, 11:29:11 AM »
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by all means post a link to a right wing news site that will rationally explain the entire situation.


How about I post some of the constitution?

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Article 2, Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:


As the VP is elected under the rules of ART 2, The executive branch, it seems he is a member of the executive.  He has no power under this article as "The executive power shall be vested in a President"  

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Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.


But here is Art 2 section 4 that speaks of "all civil officers", which includes members of the judiciary.  So just because the office of VP is mentioned here in Art 2, does not necesarily mean VP is within the executive, as the Judiciary is mentioned, and it is certainly not within the executive branch.

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Art 1, Sec 3: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.


Here is a passage within the description of the Senate that outlines the VP power as a legislative one...  

The VP's only constitutional function in the executive branch is to fill a vacancy.  The Speaker of the House and President pro tempore of the Senate have this same function, and they are members of the legislative branch.

I see it as an interesting constitutional argument that as the VP's only power as VP a legislative power, and therefore could be considered a legislator.
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2007, 11:38:37 AM »
I'm kinda looking forward to Dems winning in 08.  I wonder what Lew and the
rest of the commie horde can cry about then? :D
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2007, 11:41:14 AM »
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I'm kinda looking forward to Dems winning in 08.  I wonder what Lew and the
rest of the commie horde can cry about then? :D


I am almost to the same point... I hope for a democratic victory just so the whining will stop.  Then we can see how well they deal with all the problems going on.

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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2007, 11:47:59 AM »
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I am almost to the same point... I hope for a democratic victory just so the whining will stop.  Then we can see how well they deal with all the problems going on.


So Republicans don't whine?
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2007, 11:48:22 AM »
approval poll for the democratic controlled congress is down to 18%, 08 not looking good.