Author Topic: Operation Cartwheel Final Scores (Read 1524 times)

DmdJJ · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2007, 05:28:05 AM »

37 A6M5B's were used. Thats what the logs show. Thats only looking at first launch, not re-arms.

WolfSnipe · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2007, 05:41:24 AM »

o ok thnx forHIM i didnt understand that <~~> ForHIM:aok~~

humble · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2007, 08:33:40 AM »

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Originally posted by DmdJJ
37 A6M5B's were used. Thats what the logs show. Thats only looking at first launch, not re-arms.

I get 37 also when I go back and look.....

Stampf · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2007, 08:53:17 AM »

19? Don't know where that number comes from Sled.

37 is correct, accurate initial launch number. 36 in squadron sized groups. (1 more) ShaknBake launched one in a A6m2 squad (?). making a total of 37.

My quess is either orders were Fubar, or one of the smaller (4 or 5 plane ) units, disregarded their orders. Hoping that is not the case, but would not be overly surprised as units seem to be acting more and more individually lately. That is not the spirit of FSO folks. This is a team operation, and careful planning, delivery, and execution of orders is imperative from all.

EDIT: JG11 was Axis btw, and we requested A6m5b's. We were however assigned A6m2's...and that's what we flew.

scottydawg · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2007, 09:15:38 AM »

Yeah, that's not cool. That kind of thing might fly in Snapshots, but we need to keep it by the book for FSO. The designers work very hard to make sure the sides are more or less evenly matched (or accurately portrayed, given the circumstances), and when a squad decides they want to just all up whatever they want regardless of the cap limits, it's unfair to everyone.

Nefarious · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:05:51 AM »

I'm looking into why so many were upped.

Stampf · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:19:22 AM »

Nef,

The "56th", "Fate",and "AK's", account for the "allowed number" of a6m5b's allowed by setup.

For some reason, the "Raw Prawns" and ShakenBake of "The Isle of misfit Toys" also upped A6m5b's.

Sled · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:53:51 AM »

Oops, my bad

yes it is 37. I had typed in the wrong plane when I did my search. (I was in a hurry)

We will look into it guys, there will be a penalty, but the event is still going to be basically a tie.

scottydawg · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:56:19 AM »

Personally I care nothing for the end score, I care that the FSO is as fair and 'as-designed' as possible. Then if it sucks we know who to yell at.

Stampf · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:00:44 AM »

Sled,

One thing. Mistakes happen. We all make them. But I would respectfuly suggest we stop calling every event a "Tie". Win or lose I don't care, but alot of folks do. And a 1 point difference makes a win or a loss. Not a tie. Why do we even bother with fair setups and the use of points if every event is going to be called a tie?

Just a suggestion sir, for the good of the FSO. And I fully understand that you are trying to get the focus on Fun, enjoyment, and the fight, but declaring an event a tie, when in reality it is not...well..I think that is damaging to the FSO.

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:15:50 AM »

A typo on my part allowed too many squads to up with a6m5bs.

I realized this at the start, but decided to go with it, due to a squad showingup in below their minimum, I thought I might just get 32 of 34. I knew the consequences and decided to continue with it.

Had I changed it, the enemy CV would have been destroyed. It only needed 1 more B5N drop and if I changed the error in the begging, 4 more B5Ns would have upped. The B5N's made it to target without any enemy aircraft in sight.

Joker312 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:39:40 AM »

Kermit thats not a good excuse. Not that any excuse is needed but to say a CV would be dead if I didnt allow my side to up too many -5 zekes is conjecture and inadmissable. Its just silly to say "my side would have won big if we didnt cheat"

I care not what the outcome of this is. I had fun and I appreciate all the work that others (the CM's and side CO's) do to enable us to enjoy a Friday evening in the virtual skies.

This was a well designed affair and the closeness in the scoring attests to that fact. Mistakes will always be made as it is near impossible to enforce all the rules during the frame.

A mistake has been found, no big deal. I suggest we let this drop and look forward to the next installment of FSO.

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:50:12 AM »

I expect a penalty.

The extra A6m5bs didn't see any action prior to the b5ns hitting the CV. They flew next to the bombers the whole time to the target.

I'm only givng the what would have happend if I had 32 or less A6m5bs up, just in case someone wants to pull the "we lost because of this" card.

I wanted the squads to have fun on both sides.

Joker312 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2007, 12:05:49 PM »

Kermit, I see I cannot reason with you. You have your agenda and you are going to make your case to the very end.

Take a moment and think about your position. After you do that, if you still feel its necessary to to put silly thoughts to typed words, then I wish you only the best. I will not reply anymore to such an untenable rant.

Stampf · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2007, 12:07:21 PM »

Joker is right Kermit. You are way off base here.