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Offline Citabria

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 12:57:29 AM »
i watched fx1 in a mossie on the deck today after new version with 3 la7s in a furball as i flew towards him to help.

he killed them all before i even got a chance to shoot one. :D
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2007, 01:12:26 AM »
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i watched fx1 in a mossie on the deck today after new version with 3 la7s in a furball as i flew towards him to help.

he killed them all before i even got a chance to shoot one. :D

Yes, just fiddling with it offline it feels a lot handier.  I can tell that if I put time back in, I could get some real success out of it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2007, 01:24:00 AM »
Ok, a couple more test flights done.

Each stall was produced as a snap roll induced at 200 ias, by about a 20 deg nose up, 30 deg bank, then sharp back stick and full rudder together.

Alt was 12 - 14k, fuel 50%.

First 3 times I could recover without difficulty.  I tried with combat trim on and off. Recovery slightly easier with it off.

It was stable enough that I was able to complete the P47 "flip around" manouvre under full control.  (Might be worth working on for the fans).
I was about to concede I had it all wrong when a flash of thought.  I fired off the ammo until about 100 rounds of cannon remained and tried again.

Persistent unrecoverable spins.  Each time I tried I got the same result.  It might be that reducing the ammo load brings cg aft enough to make it unstable?  Is this sort of accuracy modelled?  Is this something that needs a tweak or is it a feature?  I would be pleased to hear if others get the same result or if it's something I've got screwed in my setup.
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2007, 02:41:49 AM »
I got to fly the mossie for one sortie last night, and from what i could feel it has gotten better. :)
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2007, 03:18:24 AM »
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It might be that reducing the ammo load brings cg aft enough to make it unstable?  Is this sort of accuracy modelled?  


I would be incredibly impressed if HTC modeled the plane with that much detail.

Until they say otherwise, I'm guessing that the answer to your question is "no."
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Offline Flint

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2007, 05:25:43 AM »
The 38's have always flown better with the lighter ammo loadout option......
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2007, 05:29:03 AM »
Messed with one last night and found it much more stable riding the edge nose high........ it responded to flap at the appropriate moments permitting slow reverse roll and hammer head type turns.

Its much easier to enter combat with this Mossie than the one we had last week.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2007, 06:15:57 AM »
FINALLY!

After such a long time and a recent intensive campaign, HT and cronies fixed the mossie :aok
Thank you HTC.

Now, how do I get the flame dumpers off in the hangar?
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2007, 06:53:00 AM »
Went off line did me expert test pilots malarkey lol.  Did 50 & 25% fuel loads and combat trim on.  Did Spins with full ammo pack and spins with 623lb lighter empty guns.  For the life of me I couldn't induce an inverted flat spin.

Every spin I did was easily recoverable with reduction of throttle.  Even tested spins with left outer tank empty with no adverse effect to recoverability.

Max loss of altitude before recovery was 2,500 feet with throttle wide open.  I could see that needing another 1,000 in certain situations.

If anyone experiences trouble with recovery the first thing is throttle off and nose down.  Other than that I would recommend checking calibration on all axis especially rudder.  If rudder settings are set to light and by light I mean over reactive I would suggest incorporating some dead band.  For want of a better expression, to eliminate over steering.

HTC and crew, well done lads:aok ...... any chance of a full power version.  I'll spend mucho perkies if need be:D
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 07:13:52 AM »
im with lynx on this one  

I Tried for the life of me to recreate the spin bug by turning and stalling it as hard as i could.   It will spin eventually but easily recoverable.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2007, 07:19:16 AM »
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I would be incredibly impressed if HTC modeled the plane with that much detail.

Until they say otherwise, I'm guessing that the answer to your question is "no."



all other planes do... loose wieght when firing weapons off or taking guns out for instance
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2007, 08:27:59 AM »
^-- I'm pretty sure it's been that way since day 1 in AH1. Enduro should have figured this out by now :D
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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2007, 09:22:52 AM »
Flight model is very much improved. I agree, you can immelman properly now, and it seems more stable in nose high manuevers. :aok

As for the armor issue, it could very well be that all the twins in AH have a tendancy to get PWs more, I dunno.

...looking forward to the Mossie getting an AH2 makeover, and maybe we will get the flame dampers off then.

...and combat trim sucks, I never test FMs with it on, as I never use it.
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2007, 09:50:20 AM »
Same experience as lynx and bruv, never got into an inverted flat spin but did find myself in a regular flat spin that was recoverable.

Much improved.

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2007, 10:10:27 AM »
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^-- I'm pretty sure it's been that way since day 1 in AH1. Enduro should have figured this out by now :D


 I never survive long enough to empty my clip, I guess.  :D
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