Author Topic: Yes, you can kill tanks with the B-25H 75mm (Read 1445 times)

Leayme · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:37:29 PM »

The potential problem in saying it shouldn't kill a t34 is angle of attack, tank armor is designed to work on the horizontal, where sloping will deflect the round away, but let us attack at a downward angle , we are no longer shooting at sloped armor, we are shooting at it much closer to 90 degree's. and there is less likely hood of the round bouncing off.

Add to it the higher velocity of the gun and one can have a much better chance to kill, even with high explosive.

Remember a round doesn't have to penetrate to be effective, a concentrated explosion can cause spalling of the armor, with little piece of metal bouncing around the inside of a turret. Guns sights can be shattered, turret can be jammed, the thinner armour over the engine may give way, the possibilities are endless.

Then you have the theoretical effect on the crew, an artillery shell blowing up against the side armor of a tank is going to transfer shockwaves to the crew and may disable them.

Look at what is done today to provide crew protection from anti armor devices and things that go bang in general (bombs and other munitions) a lot of this wasn't even a figment in someones imagination in WW2 and so what wouldn't work today on modern tanks, may not be the same for those of the WW2 timeframe.

Krusty · « **Reply #16 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:40:29 PM »

Hrm... you can drop 2x 1000lb bombs within 15 feet of a tiger tank multiple times without damaging him, and yet one single 15lb HE round (with no armor penetration) is going to kill it?

Meh, I think the -25 needs tweaking, personally. Takes too many rounds before getting damaged, and kills too easily with the 75mm.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

Scherf · « **Reply #17 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:58:19 PM »

Hmmmm.

And I thought the whole reason for not having the Mossie XVIII with the 6-lber was that it would turn into a buff killer (which happened exactly once IRL) and tank killer (which, though it was original intended role, didn't happen at all IRL).

Grumble, whinge, moan.

Spikes · « **Reply #18 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:58:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Hrm... you can drop 2x 1000lb bombs within 15 feet of a tiger tank multiple times without damaging him, and yet one single 15lb HE round (with no armor penetration) is going to kill it?

Meh, I think the -25 needs tweaking, personally. Takes too many rounds before getting damaged, and kills too easily with the 75mm.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

True...very true.

Oldman731 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:43:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Honestly, it really shouldn't. Not with HE rounds.

Not picking on you, Krusty, this has been raised before. Call me a moron, but a direct hit on any vehicle with a 75mm HE shell should incapacitate the vehicle. Does anyone have any evidence that it doesn't?

- oldman

Soulyss · « **Reply #20 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:45:02 PM »

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Except, it's not a howitzer. This same gun was the basis for the M6 gun selected for the M-24 Chaffee Light Tank, the finest light tank of the war. Some may still be in service today.

Should have picked my words more carefully, was using the term howitzer as a generic term. Should have known better.

Krusty · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:18:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Oldman731
Not picking on you, Krusty, this has been raised before. Call me a moron, but a direct hit on any vehicle with a 75mm HE shell should incapacitate the vehicle. Does anyone have any evidence that it doesn't?

- oldman

You ever take a panzer with only HE rounds?

Then find yourself SOL because you're plinking round after round of 88mm HE shells onto the target but not killing it?

I have.

If 88mm HE shells are craps, 75mm HE shells ought to be WEAKER. Not stronger.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:48:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Meh, I think the -25 needs tweaking, personally. Takes too many rounds before getting damaged, and kills too easily with the 75mm.

Light Perk...(puts on flak jacket)

LTAReagl · « **Reply #23 on:** August 27, 2007, 02:11:23 AM »

I agree with the need for tweaking of the -25. Being in a primarily GV squad, we've analyzed our osties against it and it brings some strange finding. 1 hit to the tail with take the whole thing off (check), 1 hit to the wing with light it up like a roman candle (check), but we've noticed that it takes and average of 8- 12 shots to do any damage to it. What is that?? Not whining, just wondering what's up with that.

~~all~~

DaddyAck · « **Reply #24 on:** August 27, 2007, 03:18:19 AM »

What 25 are y'all annalysing? because I got lazer sniped by one of your guys from crazy range as usual, and guess what after he hit me onece I went down as usual.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:02:48 AM »

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You ever take a panzer with only HE rounds?

Yes, 5 kills in a T-34 just the other day with only HE. 2 Osties 2 panzers and 1 tiger though I do admit someone finished off 1 panzer and the tiger for me after I started running away like a lil girl when the tiger started running right at me lol. Seems like a matter of where you hit them and how much you hit them in the right spots..

I've been shot at alot by guys in the 25 and have yet to be even scratched by one, I just drive on.

Also I to would love to know what code you are imputing to get these indistructible B-25's your talking about?? Every time I fly one it's 1 hit to the wing and I turn into a fireball or it just falls off... Though my squad seems to agree that the fusalage is quite tough other than the fact that the entire tail falls off after a few good hits...