Author Topic: Has Ditching Changed... (Read 1564 times)

Tiger · « **Reply #30 on:** August 27, 2007, 03:25:03 PM »

so the moral of this story is if you ditch in enemy territory and want to deprive the guy of his kill, wait a little while to give him time to land and tower out before you tower out.

CAP1 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 27, 2007, 03:37:58 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Guppy35
Ok what makes sense in the overall scheme of things.

I'm on my way in my 38G over Rabaul and I get shot up and I have to ditch. I get captured and finish the war as a POW or worse executed by the Japanese MPs on Rabaul

Thats about as much of a kill as you can get.

On the other hand, I'm in my 38G over Rabaul and i get shot up. I somehow manage to make it to friendly territory and while I don't make the field, I ditch it in a field where later on the Engineers recover my bird, ship it back and have it rebuilt. Meanwhile I return to flying.

That ain't no kill.

So if I ditch in AH near an enemy base and I'm captured the guy who shot me up should get the kill.

If I'm defending my base and I get shot up and ditch near my field. He shouldn't get a kill.

1)actually, i think the system looks at it as whether or not you're still a threat or not. it probably only scores as a kill as the plane is down, in pieces, and at that exact moment not a htreat to anyone.

Isn't that how AH does it? That's how I've always seen it.

Lusche · « **Reply #32 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:12:16 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by CAP1
1)actually, i think the system looks at it as whether or not you're still a threat or not. it probably only scores as a kill as the plane is down, in pieces, and at that exact moment not a htreat to anyone.

Isn't that how AH does it?

No. System never does anything like that.

(BTW, you might work on your art of quoting. Difficult to tell what you are just quoting and what your own contributions are.)

TEShaw · « **Reply #33 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:17:07 PM »

Lusche films almost every flight?

That's another 25% of his time, just as a librarian.

xtyger · « **Reply #34 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:27:22 PM »

Demonslayer wrote, "now if you try to ditch in a friendly territory then you will get a ditch, no matter how many times some 1 has pinged you.".

I believe it was yesterday I was headed to a carrier with two kills to land in my FM2. I really wanted to land those kills as I believe they would be my first two landed in a Wildcat.

I thought I had a good landing but I guess I blew it. I ended up sliding off the front of the carrier. To add insult to injury, not only did I get the message that I'd ditched, I also got a message that someone shot me down. I don't believe there was a con within eyesight, either.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #35 on:** August 28, 2007, 09:58:20 AM »

Let me see If I understand this, and not that Im going to do it cause who cares? If I ditch a bomber over enemy territory and just outwait the fighter pilot getting back to tower then he doesnt get credited with the kill? And if I shoot him up, and he ditches by hitting enter 3 times and then O, then I dont get credit for the kill? Unless its in my own terriritory and he doesnt outwait me at the tower?

Ive been wondering why fighters I shoot up dont continue an attack and run away at first sign of trouble with their airplane. For every 1 I kill from a bomber I probably make 3 run off. Not that it matters cause I fly bombers to take out targets , not to take out fighters.

It all makes sense when you think about it I guess. Except the outwaiting to tower thing.

A few times Ive spent 1&1/2 hours in Buffs, taken out 50% of a factory, shot down 3 fighters, and then got discoed on landing.

Dastrdly · « **Reply #36 on:** August 28, 2007, 10:14:01 AM »

your rong

never been able to ditch in enemy territory. unless possibly attacker dies b4 u exit plane.

my new concern is i have had several planes ditch inside icon range & still in the air with out any proxy. nomatter where it happened... home turf or enemys.

as soon as u get close or have air supperiority POOF they gone.

has any1 else noticed or know that it works diff than im thinking?

Snubby · « **Reply #37 on:** August 29, 2007, 11:48:35 PM »

ok, riddle me this..

I was flying high over a base and a single p51 was orbiting it at about 6 k

I dove down, shot him, (got kill) but compressed and augured..

I get a "you have crashed" "ssoinso" shot you down..

thing is.. the ONLY enemy plane in the ENTIRE SECTOR was the p51.. (that I shot down) and he didnt get the kill...

I was never near any other enemy other than the 51 let alone pinged or even shot at by anyone else..

??????????

Lusche · « **Reply #38 on:** August 29, 2007, 11:54:00 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Snubby
ok, riddle me this..

I was flying high over a base and a single p51 was orbiting it at about 6 k

I dove down, shot him, (got kill) but compressed and augured..

I get a "you have crashed" "ssoinso" shot you down..

thing is.. the ONLY enemy plane in the ENTIRE SECTOR was the p51.. (that I shot down) and he didnt get the kill...

I was never near any other enemy other than the 51 let alone pinged or even shot at by anyone else..

??????????

Proxy. There was someone near you, either in plane (even if on ground), GV, manned ack, parachute...

Snubby · « **Reply #39 on:** August 29, 2007, 11:59:53 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Lusche
Proxy. There was someone near you, either in plane (even if on ground), GV, manned ack, parachute...

would have kinda been wierd place for a GV to be.. I was a good distance from the base before I augered..

as soon as I plugged the 51 the dar bar showed NO enemy in the sector..

thought you had to ping or at least be near someone to get a proxy..

BEST case scenario (unseen GV) would have been over 1.5k away.

Lusche · « **Reply #40 on:** August 30, 2007, 12:16:16 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Snubby
would have kinda been wierd place for a GV to be.. I was a good distance from the base before I augered..

as soon as I plugged the 51 the dar bar showed NO enemy in the sector..

thought you had to ping or at least be near someone to get a proxy..

BEST case scenario (unseen GV) would have been over 1.5k away.

Just because you did't see any plane/GV it doesn't mean there wasn't any. Darbar doesn't show planes over 500ft - one plane may just have upped as you attacked the 51 and then was close enough while you were finally hitting the ground.
You can't be sure there wasn't anyone unless you have filmed it.

straffo · « **Reply #41 on:** August 30, 2007, 02:35:58 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Lusche
And as soon as the whole field gives you a legit "landing" people will start to say: ""So you slide off the field a few feet? C'mon, I mean grass is grass, just because I slide 5 ft further...."

Alternatively I would find logic to give a ditch if you wrecked your plane on the runway.

IMO a ditch should give a kill in all cases ,except if it's on your own field.