Stall Limiter Questions

[waystin2]

I tried turning off the stall limiter last night, and had a bear of a time controlling my Seafire.  Overcompensating to the max!  Anyway, I plan to stop using the stall limiter in the future forever, but I think I will need some offline and TA time to get used to an unrestrained AC.  A couple of questions for you folks out there:

1) What percentage(roughly) of my turn radius is lost to use of the stall limiter?

2) Are some planes affected more by the stall limiter than others?

3) How would you recommend transitioning to not using the stall limiter?

Thank you all in advance for the information.

[Karnak]

1) I don't know.
2) I don't know, but I think so.
3) I'd reccomend never, ever using it.  Not at even for beginners as it just teaches bad habits that have to be unlearned.

[Lusche]

1) Hard to tell, depends enormously on pilot quality. Maybe someone has done some testing on that matter...

2) Yes. Some planes have a rather nasty stall behaviour, more skill is needed to ride that edge.

3) Actually I did use Stall Limiter during my first 3 Tours in AH, and I consciously did so. But I was mostly E / BnZ fighting in LA-7 at that time, so did't suffer very much from doing that.
When you finally decide to turn off the limiter, do it the right way. Don't fly one plane with limiter and one without. Be aware that it will take some time for you to adapt. I recommend you stick to one plane during your first week or two, until you are comfortable with limiter off.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by waystin2
I tried turning off the stall limiter last night, and had a bear of a time controlling my Seafire.  Overcompensating to the max!  Anyway, I plan to stop using the stall limiter in the future forever, but I think I will need some offline and TA time to get used to an unrestrained AC.  A couple of questions for you folks out there:

1) What percentage(roughly) of my turn radius is lost to use of the stall limiter?

2) Are some planes affected more by the stall limiter than others?

3) How would you recommend transitioning to not using the stall limiter?

Thank you all in advance for the information.

1,  Not sure anything is lost or gained.  Is the radius of turn greater with stall limiter on?  that should be the question.  I am not exactly sure how the stall limiter works.  Does it do it's job by limiting the user from reaching or exceeding the critical angle of attack (AOA),  there by preventing a stall?  

Once an aircraft in a sustained turn has exceeded  the critical AOA, that aircraft has by definition, stopped turning,  no lift, no turn. So I’m not sure that the turn radius would be different between two aircraft of the same type and weight in a sustained turn.

2.   Different aircraft types have different critical AOA’s but the stall limiter would work the same.  It’s job is to limit the pilot from exceeding the critical AOA.  For that matter, Aircraft of the same type but different load outs will have different Critical AOA’s

3.  Shut it off, never turn it on. Never use it.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Traveler
1,  Not sure anything is lost or gained.  Is the radius of turn greater with stall limiter on?  that should be the question.  I am not exactly sure how the stall limiter works.  Does it do it's job by limiting the user from reaching or exceeding the critical angle of attack (AOA),  there by preventing a stall?  
 

As far as I know it prevents you from reaching the critical AoA. (The default setting for StallLimitAOA in arena settings is 2.0)
So with SL disabled, you can get closer to that critical point, which results in better performance.

[Gulp]

give it 2 weeks and you'll never go back to having it on.

[WMLute]

Turn Stall Limiter OFF!

Give it a week or so.

[DustyR]

1) What percentage(roughly) of my turn radius is lost to use of the stall limiter?

2) Are some planes affected more by the stall limiter than others?

3) How would you recommend transitioning to not using the stall limiter?

1 The individual turning radius will vary with each AC dependent on Load and speed.  What you will gain is the ability to turn the AC until you blackout or the AC stalls & falls away.
2.  See one above.
3.  Turn the stall limiter off after you spend some time in a different AC, and are comfortable with it.  If you watch the History Channel on 'dogfighting' you will soon realized that most fighter pilots then & now are flying on the edge of controllablility.
Try it, learn it and enjoy.

[AirFlyer]

Simply like pretty much everyone said, Stall Limiter stops your plane from getting to the critical stall point to where you plane starts tumbling to the ground. Although you can turn slightly better with it, you also need to take some time to get used to your planes maximum turning point before stalling. But I would suggest turning it off, it diden't take long for me to get used to it, maybe a week or two. Although like everything else in this game, just because you know it, doesn't mean you've mastered it yet.

Airflyer(Dustin57)

[frumpus]

pardon the n00b question but how exactly does one turn the limiter off?

[Lusche]

Originally posted by frumpus
pardon the n00b question but how exactly does one turn the limiter off?

Options->Preferences->Flight