Author Topic: English for beginners... (Read 6658 times)

1cajun · « **Reply #120 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:45:33 PM »

I have been to over 60 different countries and you would be surprised at what is offensive in some of them. This is not too hard to figure out though.

If there is ever any doubt in my mind that someone might find something offensive then I don't say it. Quick typing in the buffer is an excuse not a reason. It would be just as easy to call out the low zeke or ki.

It is not that hard to show a little consideration unless you just don't care. In that case I'm wasting my breath.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #121 on:** September 14, 2007, 02:49:43 PM »

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Originally posted by SteveBailey
You have no business being critical of anyone regarding this topic.

You are a foul racist.

But I didn't mean it in a derogatory way, so how could it be offensive?

Oh and gringo is not a racist or ethnic slur, as Americans are not a race or ethnicity.

But thanks for proving my point anyway.

ack-ack

FBBone · « **Reply #122 on:** September 14, 2007, 03:10:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Oh and gringo is not a racist or ethnic slur, as Americans are not a race or ethnicity.

ack-ack

Uh, yes it is...............

Gringo \Grin"go\, n. [Amer. Sp., fr. Sp. gringo gibberish; cf.
griego Greek, F. grigou wretch.]
Among Spanish Americans, a foreigner, especially an American
or sometimes an Englishman; -- often used disparagingly or as
a term of reproach.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

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B@tfinkV · « **Reply #123 on:** September 14, 2007, 03:38:07 PM »

what about gay?

is it ok to use this term as a light hearted insult?

i think it is, but maybe a homosexual would disagree.

in that sense, it doesnt matter that non-japanese people think jap is ok, if the japanese think its rude then it is.

but really, words are just words. meh, the topic has been raped....

oops, sorry, i didnt mean to offend any rapists...

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #124 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:12:22 PM »

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Originally posted by FBBone
Uh, yes it is...............

Gringo \Grin"go\, n. [Amer. Sp., fr. Sp. gringo gibberish; cf.
griego Greek, F. grigou wretch.]
Among Spanish Americans, a foreigner, especially an American
or sometimes an Englishman; -- often used disparagingly or as
a term of reproach.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

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Please tell me where it indicates "American" is a race or ethnic group? It may be considered an insult to foreigners but in no way is Gringo a racial or ethnic slur.

ack-ack

Vudak · « **Reply #125 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:19:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Please tell me where it indicates "American" is a race or ethnic group?

"American" has just as much claim to being a seperate race or ethnic group as "Hispanic."

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #126 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:27:04 PM »

Please show me on a US Census form that has American as a selection for race or ethnic group. Hispanics are an ethnic group, not a race. There is a difference between one's nationality and ones race/ethnic group.

ack-ack

FBBone · « **Reply #127 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:29:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Please tell me where it indicates "American" is a race or ethnic group? It may be considered an insult to foreigners but in no way is Gringo a racial or ethnic slur.

ack-ack

Really? Tell me then, how many Americans of Mexican or Spanish descent do you suppose get called "gringo"? I'd wager not many. In that context, I read "American" and "Englishman" to mean Caucasian.

Vudak · « **Reply #128 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:33:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Please show me on a US Census form that has American as a selection for race or ethnic group. Hispanics are an ethnic group, not a race. There is a difference between one's nationality and ones race/ethnic group.

ack-ack

From Dictionary.com

(The very first entry for "Ethnic")

"1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like."

(Slightly below that, the definition of "Ethnic Group")

"people of the same race or nationality who share a distinctive culture."

I would argue there is certainly a distinctive "American Culture," it just happens to be open for anyone regardless of superficialities, much like "Hispanic," apparently, considering one can be descended from Europeans, Africans, Native Americans, or any combination of those and other groups and still consider themselves "Hispanic."

Rolex · « **Reply #129 on:** September 14, 2007, 05:36:22 PM »

I commend those of you who have taken the time to read the dictionary and decided they aren't going to use an offensive racial slur.

Kermit and DREDIOCK and a few others are simply wrong. Your opinions and continued rationalizing do not convince anyone that 2+2=3. Just accept that you are wrong, accept that 2+2=4.

Continuing to insist that 2+2=3 makes people lose respect for you, as I have.

Laurie · « **Reply #130 on:** September 14, 2007, 05:41:20 PM »

LOL makes me laugh how so many of you feel so compelled to defend the JAPANESE and criticize you countrymen over something so petty.

the world is going mad, all this PC crap is the scurge of the modern world.

The blacks, gays, bi's, Indians, Mexicans Africans all have someone to defend them,

but who defends the caucasian Anglo-Saxon male like me... no-one, no-one even theough we built most of the modern-world.

It saddens me it really does.

Vudak · « **Reply #131 on:** September 14, 2007, 06:03:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
I commend those of you who have taken the time to read the dictionary and decided they aren't going to use an offensive racial slur.

Kermit and DREDIOCK and a few others are simply wrong. Your opinions and continued rationalizing do not convince anyone that 2+2=3. Just accept that you are wrong, accept that 2+2=4.

Continuing to insist that 2+2=3 makes people lose respect for you, as I have.

I don't see why you'd lump Drediock into that.

2bighorn · « **Reply #132 on:** September 14, 2007, 06:13:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Laurie
but who defends the caucasian Anglo-Saxon male like me...

Uhm, lawyers and certain types of care facilities I'd say.

Vudak · « **Reply #133 on:** September 14, 2007, 06:38:20 PM »

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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Uhm, lawyers and certain types of care facilities I'd say.

2bighorn, Rolex, et al...

Would you say you strive for equality?

1K3 · « **Reply #134 on:** September 14, 2007, 06:46:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Kermit de frog

In real life, when I speak, I normally do not use the word "Jap".
When I type, whether in emails, AH, or even with pen/paper, I will use "Jap" if the situation arises. Now if this is something in a formal nature, I will not use "Jap" because abbreviating any word is best avoided. I consider it shorthand and I've asked a friend if he found "Jap" offensive in an email. He did not.

If some people that HATE the Japanese use the term "Jap" towards Japs, I'm sure you can see/hear the way they say it. I will continue to use the word when writing/typing in shorthand.
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Use this instead

JPN

This will save you from trouble:aok