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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2007, 03:32:33 PM »
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They did, didn't you watch the video?  He keeps on rambling, "what did I do?, what did I do?".  I have the feeling his intention all along was to disrupt the meeting and bait the cops into doing exactly what they did.


Yes I did watch the video. I watched the cops immediately go up to him and grab him. How would you feel if you had cops come up behind you and instead of saying " Sir, please come with us" they grab you and wrestle you down?

Did you watch the video and hear Kerry say he would answer the question? Now if he was doing anything to justify the cops coming up and grabbing him like that I doubt that Kerry would have been interested in answering the question.

If he was disturbing the event they are to ask him to leave. Turning off the mic was the first step, but the cops jumped right top the last resort instead.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 03:33:30 PM »
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i hate cops on power trips.


I hate people who blather on and on about God knows what and don't get to the question.  I have just one question:

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 03:53:00 PM »
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My question is: [taser]What have I done? Am I being arrested?[/Taser] Help! Help! I'm Being Repressed! You saw him repressing me, didn't you?


Blah, question supposed to be why we need Gestapo at such event?

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 03:58:03 PM »
Watch for yourselves,
The kid gets hosed, Then in the second video the cops tell him his been arrested for starting a riot.:eek:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&mode=related&search=

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the cops are going to hate the fact these kids have camera phones.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 04:02:16 PM »
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Blah, question supposed to be why we need Gestapo at such event?


Apparently because of people like Andrew Meyer.  Reading the blogs and BBS from the UF area this guy is a well-known nutbag.  He was confronted by police before entering the building and was told that if he disrupted the forum or made any sorts of threat to the Senator he would be arrested.  He barged in anyway and bolted straight to the microphone and started going off (according to Kerry himself).

Search YouTube for the unedited version of his ranting and you will understand why they tried to escort him from the building (after turning off the microphone did not work).

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"This isn't a free speech issue. This is the issue of a 21 year-old with too many conspiracy theory websites under his belt screaming at a senator for no good reason.  The University of Florida has full right to control a person who has taken it upon himself to start a two hour sermon against the big scary machine that he's raging against."

"coming from someone who was there, it was COMPLETELY justified."

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 04:07:10 PM »
Here's another:

"The disturbance did not begin with Andrew asking the question. He caused quite a scene by bursting into the room in the middle of Q+A, rudely interrupting Kerry answering another question (what was supposed to be the last one), and demanding to be heard. The cops followed him in (I have the feeling he had been giving them a hard time outside as well)

John Kerry responded by asking him to calm down and wait his turn, that his question would be answered next.

As some of the videos show, his question was long and rambling without much focus, less of a question if you will than an outburst. John Kerry remained calm, tried to guide him to the direct question he would like answered, but Andrew continued. After Accent cut his mike off, the cops tried to guide him out and as you can all see the real event began.

I was sitting in the back row of the auditorium- less than 5 feet from where he was restrained and ended up being tasered. (you can see my green shirt next to my friend in the striped shirt on most of the videos) He WAS NOT handcuffed yet when they did it. He was still attempting to get up and resist the police officers and would not put his hands behind his back.

Within close range, I have to say that I didn't feel it was the safest situation. I did not feel like they had him under control at all- and was scared that if he did manage to get up- he would have started getting riled up again. I personally was in a location that if he had started flailing around again- I would have been at risk.

Now- my opinion- I think Andrew had intentions to be disruptive and was not going to leave peacefully. I am by no means a proponent of violence, but the way the UPD handled this situation was completely appropriate."

-Stephanie Sims, former UF College Democrats President

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 04:27:58 PM »
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Here's another:

"The disturbance did not begin with Andrew asking the question. He caused quite a scene by bursting into the room in the middle of Q+A, rudely interrupting Kerry answering another question (what was supposed to be the last one), and demanding to be heard. The cops followed him in (I have the feeling he had been giving them a hard time outside as well)

John Kerry responded by asking him to calm down and wait his turn, that his question would be answered next.

As some of the videos show, his question was long and rambling without much focus, less of a question if you will than an outburst. John Kerry remained calm, tried to guide him to the direct question he would like answered, but Andrew continued. After Accent cut his mike off, the cops tried to guide him out and as you can all see the real event began.

I was sitting in the back row of the auditorium- less than 5 feet from where he was restrained and ended up being tasered. (you can see my green shirt next to my friend in the striped shirt on most of the videos) He WAS NOT handcuffed yet when they did it. He was still attempting to get up and resist the police officers and would not put his hands behind his back.

Within close range, I have to say that I didn't feel it was the safest situation. I did not feel like they had him under control at all- and was scared that if he did manage to get up- he would have started getting riled up again. I personally was in a location that if he had started flailing around again- I would have been at risk.

Now- my opinion- I think Andrew had intentions to be disruptive and was not going to leave peacefully. I am by no means a proponent of violence, but the way the UPD handled this situation was completely appropriate."

-Stephanie Sims, former UF College Democrats President


Don't let a little thing like the truth get in the way of a good anti-establishment rant.  Everyone in that room was GESTAPO!!1!OnE111!!!1!

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 04:38:52 PM »
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Search YouTube for the unedited version of his ranting and you will understand why they tried to escort him from the building (after turning off the microphone did not work).


Escort him out? Looks more like they just grabbed him and escalated the situation instead of asking him to come with them. If he refused, THEN they would have had the right to do what they did.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 05:59:27 PM »
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Apparently because of people like Andrew Meyer.  Reading the blogs and BBS from the UF area this guy is a well-known nutbag.  He was confronted by police before entering the building and was told that if he disrupted the forum or made any sorts of threat to the Senator he would be arrested.  He barged in anyway and bolted straight to the microphone and started going off (according to Kerry himself).


It doesn't matter, in this case, that the kid is a "nut bag" or that he's pulled similar antics at other like gatherings; if the campus pseudo police suspected he entered the building with the intent to commit a crime, he should have been arrested for burglary at the door. The fact they allowed him to enter proves they didn't suspect he would commit a crime... even based on his alleged prior actions.

Besides that, nobody knows if the campus police had his 'facebook' google or whatever intardnet information at the time of his arrest, even if they did... all the information would have to be investigated and corroborated before it was considered valid, until then its little more that weak hearsay and hardly rises to the level of PC... if it did, like I said, he could have been arrested at the door.

Unfortunately most of what those campus cops did was perfectly 100% legal at face value, whatever "rights" you thought you had have probably been long erased by the republicans & democrats in charge. Maybe some judge will rule the "police" did not issue a "lawful" order he was legally obligated to follow (al la Waco), but I doubt it.

Look up calif 148PC, the police can arrest you for some real petty crap, like not standing up, refusing to remove sunglasses or not walking away when "ordered"... if that kid wanted to "obey" the law, he'd have laid down on the ground the instant the campus police ordered him to and allowed them to cuff & cart him off... anything else can be considered "resisting" or "obstructing".

40,000+ will go waste $$ to watch a football game, if only the same number would protest every time laws like 148PC were passed... maybe that kid wouldn't be a criminal right now.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2007, 06:30:41 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2007, 06:46:04 PM »
hahah...jhookt looks like a idiot.

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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2007, 06:55:15 PM »
It's amazing the conclusions that are reached here based on anincomplete and likely edited video from folks who just might have an agenda. It is rather predictable and consistent though.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2007, 07:28:16 PM »
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You watch this video, and it looks as though the students cheer the cops when they originally move on this guy.
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2007, 07:47:44 PM »
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It's amazing the conclusions that are reached here based on anincomplete and likely edited video from folks who just might have an agenda. It is rather predictable and consistent though.


Not when you see the cops do nothing but grab the guys instead of talking to him. If he was being disruptive, they are to come up and ask him to leave. IF he refuses then they are allowed to use physical force, but not before hand.
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2007, 07:53:30 PM »
I think the rentacpos were correct in their actions.  folks need to understand that others have rights as well.  the kid was being disruptive, furthermore he was approaching a  US senator in a somewhat out of control manner were I on that detail he would have been swept down and dragged out.