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Offline Boroda

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Mongol: a movie.
« on: September 22, 2007, 06:26:04 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkClRTVg45Q

I feel like going to the theatre to watch it. Ghenghiz-Khan is one of my favourite characters, the greatest warrior of all times, building an Empire from Yellow to Adriatic sea. Russia is in some way one of the successors of his Empire.

AFAIK this film was made on Kazakh money, Ghenghiz is their national hero (welcome, Borat!).

Tengrie is my callsign since maybe 1991, back then I didn't wear a beard... A Great Blue Sky. Black Faith of Mongols always amazed me. Prehistoric existentialism.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0416044/

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Re: Mongol: a movie.
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2007, 06:34:36 PM »
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Ghenghiz-Khan is one of my favourite characters, the greatest warrior of all times,


I guess you've never heard of Alexander the Great?
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 06:37:57 PM »
i'll see your Alexander the Great and raise you one Attila the hun.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2007, 06:42:44 PM »
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I guess you've never heard of Alexander the Great?


Compare space from Macedonia to, hmm, India - and space from Manchuria  to Croatia.

Alexander was the greatest European leader... In his time. And his empire was quite tiny even compared to our 1/6th of the land on Earth. Ghenghiz-Khan's Mongol Empire was bigger.

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2007, 07:47:17 PM »
Comapre tactics and strategy and I think you may change your mind. But then again you won't since you think he was Russian.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2007, 08:10:12 PM »
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Comapre tactics and strategy and I think you may change your mind. But then again you won't since you think he was Russian.


Mongols conquered Russian Principates in a matter of months...

It's hard to compare Alexander's army to nomadic horsemen. Ghenghiz's grandson, Batu (Batiy) came to Russia with 500 Mongol guards and about 5000 Tatar horsemen, plus some siege machines  brought all the way from China. And it happened 21 years after the first pathetic defeat of joint Russian army at Kalka by Subudai, Ghenghiz's warlord.

The whole story of relations between Russians and the Horde is too complicated for a BBS post. It's a big question, if Russia assimilated the Horde or Horde assimilated Russia. "300 years of Tatar Yoke" is just "popular history for dummies". That's what I meant in a first post.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 10:58:00 PM »
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It's hard to compare Alexander's army to nomadic horsemen.


The only thing that stopped Alexander was he died at a young age. If he had lived as long as Khan, how much more would he have taken?
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