i hate people who HO me cuz they always have CANs and always get me, so i HO when they HO me first, i'll make the pass, turn if i can and see where they are, if they come by and HO me again, I keep going.. Is that so wrong. I normaly fly the F4U, and everyone knows they are not the best turn fighters, granted, I have out turned some spits before, but i'm still learning and not all that good with it, so yes, I dive down and run hoping to get away and get more alt then return for the fight... so I sure hope that isnt so wrong.