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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2007, 10:34:32 PM »
No doubt we face a quandry. Suffer those not different from many of our immigrant ancestors looking for a better life while reducing our quality of life as a result of supporting those with a dragging dependency upon our social infrastructure.
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2007, 10:38:51 PM »
Those hiring illegals should be doing some time as well as paying the fines. The fines should at least cover all the costs incurred from the arrest, trial, deportation, etc.
Fighting this thing from the top down, not from the bottom up should yield better results.
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2007, 11:16:35 PM »
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Some of the illegals from Guatemala arrived to escape political imprisonment or death.  They didn't come for the money so much as they came to keep on living.  I have compassion for them, matters not their politics if they're here for sanctuary.  

Guatemala is very impoverished after their civil war of 36 years.  Many were displaced, mostly Amerindians.  For a lot of them it was either leave or be killed, or have an extremely miserable life.

Now I'm not saying this guy is a political refugee, but when speaking of illegals, Guatemala is a special case to consider.  For them it very well could be come to the U.S. or die.




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Just got back last night from a week in Guatemala. That country makes me miss Colombia.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2007, 11:19:01 PM »
I'm Colombian.


And you're right ;)

also...

"For 11 years, Pedro Zapeta, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala, lived his version of the American dream in Stuart, Florida" ....
"Zapeta, who speaks no English..."


He may have commited a criminal offense by entering the country illegally, he may have not paid taxes, he may have been ignorant that you have to declare more than $10k taking it out of the country....

but just how STUPID can you be to take $59k in cash in a BAG ... and not learn English in 11 YEARS?

Sorry, I say deport him after he pays the taxes due to the Gov, pays a fine for entering the US illegally (it'd be useless to jail him, just a waste of gov. money) and refuse him entry to the US for the next 20 years.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2007, 11:25:10 PM »
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Why wait for MT?  Right is right and wrong is wrong.  Other than being an illegal immigrant, he did nothing wrong.  Probably owed little to nothing in income tax at less than $6000 a year income.  Dishwashing is hard work and he earned his money.  He should have his money.





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Thats right. right is right and wrong is wrong.
He was in this country illegally.
Therefore he had no right to be here let alone work and make any kind of money here.

You should not be rewarded with money that you gained illegally.
Which is exactly what he did by being here illegally to begin with.

What he did was wrong. he doesnt deserve a penny
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2007, 11:29:12 PM »
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To save 59K in 11 years is a pretty amazing feat making 5.50+ an hour. How much was his raise?

Something ain't right.



25 cent raise is all he received.  He saved 90% of his paycheck, only spending what basics he needed to live on.  

He should pay whatever fine for not paying his yearly income tax and be allowed to keep the rest since he did earn it.

On a side note...I wonder what the candidate pool must have been like if he was able to beat out legal residents.


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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2007, 11:31:45 PM »
Les, you cant just take the money the man worked for (however illegally) based on that reasoning.

Like i said above, the gov. should just come up with a heavy fine charged to all illegal aliens that are deported. If they refuse to pay it then at that point either jail them or confiscate any assets they own in the US (thats what the gov. does if you dont pay your bills anyway!).
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2007, 11:34:22 PM »
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I'm Colombian.


And you're right ;)


Hey Tac,

Didn't mean to throw Colombia around like that as a comparison. I truly love Colombia and consider myself half Colombiano. Been married to a lovely woman from Bogota almost 20 years now.

Had to really be on alert last week. Been awhile since I visited some place so dangerous. Luckily will see no reason to return.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2007, 11:36:02 PM »
How much is the US spending to try to keep his money? Take what he owes in back taxes and send him on his way.Give a month amnesty to the rest to take their money and run for the border minus taxes owed. After that sucks to be you. Oh and any time someone presses 1 to hear spanish, deport them.

Oh if their country is soo bad they should do something to fix it instead of coming here
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2007, 11:36:15 PM »
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Some of the illegals from Guatemala arrived to escape political imprisonment or death.  They didn't come for the money so much as they came to keep on living.  I have compassion for them, matters not their politics if they're here for sanctuary.  

Guatemala is very impoverished after their civil war of 36 years.  Many were displaced, mostly Amerindians.  For a lot of them it was either leave or be killed, or have an extremely miserable life.

Now I'm not saying this guy is a political refugee, but when speaking of illegals, Guatemala is a special case to consider.  For them it very well could be come to the U.S. or die.




Les


So let them go to Mexico,Belize,Honduas or any of 100 other countries.
They dont belong here illegally reguardless of their reason.
Let them apply for political assylum. If the Gov oks it fine. If not...Well tough to be them isnt it.
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2007, 11:37:56 PM »
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Those hiring illegals should be doing some time as well as paying the fines. The fines should at least cover all the costs incurred from the arrest, trial, deportation, etc.
Fighting this thing from the top down, not from the bottom up should yield better results.


agreed. it must be fought from all ends
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2007, 11:43:57 PM »
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Hey Tac,

Didn't mean to throw Colombia around like that as a comparison. I truly love Colombia and consider myself half Colombiano. Been married to a lovely woman from Bogota almost 20 years now.

Had to really be on alert last week. Been awhile since I visited some place so dangerous. Luckily will see no reason to return.


Don't worry about it. You're right! :) Been in the US 10 years and the only things I miss are the food and seeing ms universe pageants parading through every street. :P
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2007, 12:45:47 AM »
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Les, you cant just take the money the man worked for (however illegally) based on that reasoning.



Using that reasoning if he illegally amassed the money selling drugs we shouldnt be able to take it???

he is guilty of multiple crimes here... being border jumping pondscum and tax evasion, probably welfare fraud and a number of other things we collectively have paid for.

take the money, put him in jail and release him at the end of his sentence on the other side of the border.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2007, 01:03:22 AM »
I wonder if this guy ever got sick and went to a doctor during his 11 years here.

Think he paid cash for the visit?
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2007, 01:33:36 AM »
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Just got back last night from a week in Guatemala. That country makes me miss Colombia.



What was it like in Guatemala, Rogwar?  Were things bad there?



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