Harry Reid goes after Limbaugh for phoney troops comment

[Donzo]

Originally posted by ROC
He can go away, change the channel.

I am constantly amazed at how many people want some action to prevent someone from speaking, when they have the ability to tune them out all by their little ol selves.

You don't have to listen to him, simple.  But wishing he would go away, what's the matter, what are you afraid of?  I chose to listen, but I should support your petty wish and Not be able to tune in because I might hear something You don't agree with?  Who the heck appointed people like You grand pubah of what I want to hear?

This is a symptom of a larger national problem.  You guys are getting far far too comfortable wanting to squelch people you don't agree with, and are investing no time at all coming up with an original though to compete against your opposition.

It doesn't matter what political party you subscribe to, weak is weak.  

Many people confuse someones right to speak as a requirement that it be listened to, you don't have to listen.

Many people also confuse freedom of speech and what it really means.  Rush, and others, speak out against a political system they don't believe in.  That is The Point of the Freedom of Speech stuff.  It doesn't mean you can promote Pron, you can slander, you can put anything up on a billboard you want regardless of how morally offensive it is, it means you can Stand on the steps of the nations capitals and Criticize your elected leaders.  

You want to remove that ability?  It's more important to me that some idiot have the right to spew the most ludicrous statements out there, and ignore him, than to have some nanny state deciding what he, or I, can or cannot say.

If you think for one minute that Once the precedent is set that You have the right to silence someone for offending You, then I will be Offended and Silence You, and you probably won't like it nearly as much at that point.

Precedent Setting, people.  It's all around and so many of you are buying into it.  Simple comments like wishing someone Could be shut down are happening instinctively now, without even coming close to comprehending how far you have fallen into the socialist movement.

Keep it up  You don't even know you are in their camp.  Being played like fools.

Well said, ROC.

[JBA]

Originally posted by midnight Target


 "This Haditha story, this Haditha incident, whatever, this is it folks, this is the final big push on behalf of the Democratic Party, the American left, and the Drive-By Media to destroy our effort to win the war in Iraq. That’s what Haditha represents — and they are going about it gleefully. They are ecstatic about it… Folks, let me just put it in graphic terms. It is going to be a gang rape. There is going to be a gang rape by the Democratic Party, the American left and the Drive-By Media, to finally take us out in the war against Iraq. Make no bones about it. "

If your attributing this to Rush, then I guess he was spot on, Murtha, was wet between the thighs in man mayo over this FAKE story.

[JBA]

Originally posted by Stringer
I think Rush is a true patriot.....I can't remember which branch of the military he served in, but he backed up his patriotic talk with real service to our country....

that's just plain dumb..

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by JBA
If your attributing this to Rush, then I guess he was spot on, Murtha, was wet between the thighs in man mayo over this FAKE story.

Quoted from the investigation conducted by General Bagwell:

"Statements made by the chain of command during interviews for this investigation, taken as a whole, suggest that Iraqi civilian lives are not as important as U.S. lives, their deaths are just the cost of doing business, and that the Marines need to get 'the job done' no matter what it takes. These comments had the potential to desensitize the Marines to concern for the Iraqi populace and portray them all as the enemy even if they are noncombatants.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by ROC
He can go away, change the channel.

I am constantly amazed at how many people want some action to prevent someone from speaking, when they have the ability to tune them out all by their little ol selves.

You don't have to listen to him, simple.  But wishing he would go away, what's the matter, what are you afraid of?  I chose to listen, but I should support your petty wish and Not be able to tune in because I might hear something You don't agree with?  Who the heck appointed people like You grand pubah of what I want to hear?

This is a symptom of a larger national problem.  You guys are getting far far too comfortable wanting to squelch people you don't agree with, and are investing no time at all coming up with an original though to compete against your opposition.

It doesn't matter what political party you subscribe to, weak is weak.  

Many people confuse someones right to speak as a requirement that it be listened to, you don't have to listen.

Many people also confuse freedom of speech and what it really means.  Rush, and others, speak out against a political system they don't believe in.  That is The Point of the Freedom of Speech stuff.  It doesn't mean you can promote Pron, you can slander, you can put anything up on a billboard you want regardless of how morally offensive it is, it means you can Stand on the steps of the nations capitals and Criticize your elected leaders.  

You want to remove that ability?  It's more important to me that some idiot have the right to spew the most ludicrous statements out there, and ignore him, than to have some nanny state deciding what he, or I, can or cannot say.

If you think for one minute that Once the precedent is set that You have the right to silence someone for offending You, then I will be Offended and Silence You, and you probably won't like it nearly as much at that point.

Precedent Setting, people.  It's all around and so many of you are buying into it.  Simple comments like wishing someone Could be shut down are happening instinctively now, without even coming close to comprehending how far you have fallen into the socialist movement.

Keep it up  You don't even know you are in their camp.  Being played like fools.

You sure read alot into one sentence.

By "go away", I meant go away, like lose popularity. I would never think of infringing on their freedom of speach. Show me where I said I would. I simply think they make the political group I consider myself somewhat part of, look stupid.  

I am all about freedom, we do not have enough as is.

[Yeager]

I am all about freedom, we do not have enough as is.
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where could we use some more freedom in this country?

I dont mean like the freedom to not be searched at airports or the freedom to buy a tonne of chemicals that you have no obvious need for....I mean basic freedoms like those guaranteed in the bill of rights?

[GtoRA2]

As a california residient my firearms rights are far more restricted then I would like.

In fact I still cant buy handguns with mags bigger then 10 rounds or rifles. I can't buy an AR-15 with a removable mag.

The war on drugs is a giant joke and a huge waste of money. If we were truely free, we would be free to do with our bodies what we want. Hell I can't even buy sudifed anymore, atleast the real kind, because some misinformed DEA fools think thats going to have any impact on the meth scene at all?

[ROC]

You sure read alot into one sentence.

Yes, I did, words mean things   People don't spend enough time really thinking about what they mean.  Slips and off the cuff comments show instinctively what people think more often than not.

I wasn't going after you personally, I just felt that a simple statement like that was so relevant.  You gotta be careful around politicians, when you say things like "I wish he would go away" the Democrats are Listening and want to help you, so they will make it happen!  Case in point...

From the floor, one of the Democrats Rep. Schakowsky
actually discussed censuring Rush.  Now, hang on a minute...Rush is a private citizen.  The Government has No Authority to censure a private citizen, who do these people think they are?  Has she not read the constitution?  This is an example of your Democrat Leadership, she actually Thinks she has Some Authority OVER private citizens, do you see a disturbing trend here?  Anyone forgetting the concept of a Representative government?  We are not supposed to be Led, we are supposed to elect Leaders to represent us.

Some of you guys that Support people like this are also the ones complaining about airport security.  Now, I prefer a Secure Airline over the Government having the ability to Squelch a private citizen.  

You guys keep telling your Government what you want them to do for you, they will oblige.  Health Care, want "Free" Health Care?  Ok, you will now give the obligation of your health to your government.  Now, when they tell you what to eat, when to hit the treadmill, what to drink, what NOT to drink, are you going to be quite as happy?  You think they Won't go there? They already are there, hand them the health care authority and you are sunk. Who's trying to stop everyone from smoking, killed the theater popcorn, wants to ban fried food from the fair, supports suing McDonalds because some one ate too much and got fat.  And if you think it's to help you, then your sadly mistaken.  They are in it for the Power.  Who's to say Tyson Farms has healthier chicken than Banquet?  Depends on who's political party Tyson ( Demo) funds perhaps?

Who's to say, that for the sake of the "Public" that if you are 85 years old and sickly, that your medicine wouldn't be of better use to "save a child" and then you, being the ward of the state, are simply let go?  You don't think it can happen?  Which political party supports the right to die?  Which Party is just fine with abortion on demand?  Which party set's the precedent that Life itself is a negotiable commodity?  Once you accept that Life is Negotiable, then all bet's are off and you better be a Very Slick Negotiator.  

When you read the choice between having medicine for the 85 year old or the child, did you Naturally and very PC immediately think, well the Child should get it of course!  You went socialist.  The Concept of automatically assuming the medicine would be Rationed in the first place has already filtered into your psyche and become second nature.  Things are Not Finite, and a good solid medical system makes enough for everyone. That Cannot Happen in a socialist medical system.  We have more than any nation, because of our freedom.  Socialism didn't work when the Pro's ran it, what makes you think We can do it when it's abhorrent to our instinct as a free society?  Where was the best medical system when the Soviet Union was in place?  Sorry my Canadian friends, but medical is "free" up north yet those who can afford it still come south, why is that? (No, Canda isn't socialst, but they have Free Med)  How many Leaders in Socialist nations come Here for medical?  Check it out.

Keep looking for someone else to solve the problems, someone will gladly step up to do it for you.  You, of course, lose all choice in the matter after that.  

But that's ok, I'm just rambling, it's really not that big of a deal, not worth getting worked up about, you all do what you want and careful when you knock on my door to Tell me what I should or shouldn't do

[Donzo]

ROC, if you ran for POTUS you would have my vote.

[Gunthr]

the longer these politicians attack a private citizen and try to make these stupid resolutions, the more idiotic and juvenile they look.  they must really think people are stupid.  if they keep this stuff up, congress is going to wind up with a 0.002 % approval rating.  i'd compare their conduct to 3rd graders but i don't want to disparage children...  if this is their prelude to trying to get equal time on talk radio, they are only making themselves look bad and wasting time on trivialities.  its pathetic.

[RedTop]

ROC....great speech....You and Fred in 08?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by ROC
...When you read the choice between having medicine for the 85 year old or the child, did you Naturally and very PC immediately think, well the Child should get it of course!  You went socialist...

That could be a very capitalistic decision...  the ROE on someone with 80 years to pay back the investment vs someone who may only have 5...

[midnight Target]

Nice speech ROC, but I don't think anyone here applauded what Reid did or the censure of a private citizen by our government. In fact my only point was that Rush is no patriot.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Nice speech ROC, but I don't think anyone here applauded what Reid did or the censure of a private citizen by our government. In fact my only point was that Rush is no patriot.

Is that why half the Senate is trying to tar and feather him off the radio?

[ROC]

That could be a very capitalistic decision

Valid point, however, I'd still, as a capitalist, chose to sell to Both instead of having to make the choice between one.  Everything about Socialism is limits, and Capitalism is No Limits.  Socialism is about Fairness but is Limited to someone Elses view of what is Fair, you Cannot participate in that conversation as you would be selfishly looking out for your interests alone.  Capitalists are All About looking out for yourself, and As a capitalist, I believe that the Best Customers are Successful and Stinking Rich so I encourage everyone to be Successful and Stinking Rich

That is the difference, I want Everyone to be as successful as they Want to be, and Work to be.  I have full faith and confidence that anyone can achieve anything they want.  With that, however, life isn't fair and people are going to fail.  The Government movement would like to help you so that you don't get your feelings hurt when you fail.  Other, more strong minded individuals think Failure is nothing more than Successfully proving a method doesn't work and moving on to the next attempt.

I'm ROC, and I endorse this message

And yes, I'm With Fred