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[GHO5T]

hi all,

ive been playing for a few days now, and ive been flying the p51d and the spit 9.. im finding im not flying the p51 that well at low alt..i loose to much E and get shot down to easy,

should i fly the spit 9, or is there a better plane to start learning about the game alot more?

and lastly should i turn of the stall limiter?

cheers

[lengro]

That is exactly one of the differences between a p51 and spit9.

low and slow the spit9 is way better than the p51.

High and fast the p51 is way better than the spit9

Then there is a middle layer where things get fun between those two birds.

[GHO5T]

so if i fly the p51 i should try to avoid being sucked down to the deck, and try and keep the fight on my terms..up high, but is the p51 stll a good plane for me to being a newbie in, about my 4th day of playing for a few hours

[lengro]

I think almost any fighter in the planeset at one time has been pointed out as a good starter plane...

If you like the Mustang - then by all means - use that. Learn all the basic fight manouvres, learn to aim and shoot, and have great fun with it.

[Coshy]

On your fourth day you shouldnt be getting shot down ... because you should be in the Training Arena There are a lot of good people there that just love to help out people.

If you chose to run before you learn how to walk, I'd stick with the Spit 9 or 8. Both are very forgiving and allow a newer player to learn a bit from their mistakes (hopefully).

I'd turn the stall limiter off. You might as well jump in with both feet.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by GHO5T
hi all,

ive been playing for a few days now, and ive been flying the p51d and the spit 9.. im finding im not flying the p51 that well at low alt..i loose to much E and get shot down to easy,

should i fly the spit 9, or is there a better plane to start learning about the game alot more?

and lastly should i turn of the stall limiter?

cheers

Like it has been said before, if you are fond of the Pony, fly it. Best motivation and reason to fly a specific plane is some sort of personal affection to it. If you like it, you should fly it!

However if you absolutely do not care about the exact type of plane you are flying, the Spit IX might be the better choice sto start with. Successful fighting in a P51D needs a little bit more discipline and thought than a Spit IX (or VIII or XVI). (On the other hand, that may be a good thing after all )

A plane quite often recommended for beginners is the Spitfire VIII, which has, compared to the IX, a longer range, and more power & speed. But the IX is still fine, and if you are feeling comfortable in it, go ahead & fly it.

Stall limiter: Better turn it off from the beginning. It might seem more difficult at first, but keeping the limiter on seriously degrades your performance, especially impeding when flying planes depending on a high degree of maneuverabilty like the Spitfires do.

[GHO5T]

cheers,

ill play with the spit VIII untill i get quite compatent with the game, i like the p51 but i really dont like it when you lose alot of e and are drawn into turn fighting

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by GHO5T
cheers,

ill play with the spit VIII untill i get quite compatent with the game, i like the p51 but i really dont like it when you lose alot of e and are drawn into turn fighting

Well there is your problem. Nobody draws you into a turn fight, you allow your self to go there. Using discipline and NOT turning more than half a circle and keeping your speed up makes the pony very dangerous on the deck. There are some in this game who can fight their pony against a spit turning under 100 knots and win, but those guys have flown countless hours in the pony and died as many deaths.

So its up to you what you fly, and how you fly it. Spending time in the Training area WITH a trainer is a great way to spend the first week or so in this game. Just banging around the TA gets boring real fast, but a trainer is a wealth of information, and can give you instant feed back on how your flying. On the other hand you could fight in the MA's and spend WEEKS trying to figure out what your doing wrong  

There is a lot of frustration in this game, but when you get into a fight and your twisting a turning and you finally shoot down the last plane, looking around to be sure its clear. Thats when you'll notice your covered in sweat, your hearts pounding, and you have this silly little grin stuck on your face, You'll KNOW it's all worth it. Welcome to Aces High !  

[BaldEagl]

I'd stick with a Spit if I were you.  They aren't the best at anything but they do everything well and you can play any style of fight with them.

One thing to note:  Spits are generally considered among the top threats so you'll get lots of attention but what better way to learn to fight?

[Stoney74]

When I first started, all I wanted to do was fly U.S. planes--Corsairs, Ponies, Jugs.  I struggled for a good long while, maybe a couple of months, until I started flying the Spit 9.  Spent lots of time in the Training Arena.  Then, one day in the Main Arena, it started to click.  I started flying the U.S. planes taking the lessons I learned in the Spit 9 and applying them.

Good Luck!

[SgtPappy]

When you learn how to fly the F4U, the Spitfire may seem like a sports car, but the F4U will be like some crazy muscle car. It's like a Spitfire but with the added advantage of being able to extend or dive away in order to gain a bit of separation... which you will find a very important thing.

Also the Corsair's got crazy-good slotted flaps which add up to a very fast turn rate. I'm not sure why the P-47 doesn't have a similar increase in turn rate since I believe it too, has slotted flaps.

[Stoney74]

Originally posted by SgtPappy
I'm not sure why the P-47 doesn't have a similar increase in turn rate since I believe it too, has slotted flaps.

Might have something to do with the extra 2,000 lbs its lugging around...

[SgtPappy]

haha true say.. i meant that its turn rate didnt increase by a similar percentage or proportion.. i'm not exactly sure on how to explain it

[Getback]

If I had to do it again, I would definately go to the training arena. Instead, after very long while of flying, I find myself learning what I should have learned many moons ago. Howsoever, learning some of those things now has made the game that much more fun.

As far as planes, I have to agree with the spit IX. However, I started with the F6.

Fly them all and learn what you can about each. It is fascinating.

[humble]

I'm probably in the minority but I feel that starting in the spit does more to limit progress then help. Most spit drivers are very ACM/E managment limited...

F6F/109F4/C205/Ki-61 are all great planes to learn on. I tend to prefer the F6F since it helps to evolve an understanding of flaps a bit more then the other 3. All 4 will "force" you to explore out of plane manuevering and the use of flaps/rudder to "saddle up".