Soldiers found no evidence gunmen fired on Blackwater

[john9001]

so I've been called a fool a tool and a idiot.

i love it when people pay attention to what i say.

[AquaShrimp]

Look at my post above.  If you shoot everything that even has the slightest hint of being a threat, the war will be lost.  We don't need spray and pray guys in Iraq, they will do more harm than good.

[Yeager]

agreed, would just like to see a thorough presentation of the facts before coming to harsh conclusions.

[Dago]

Are ack and Murtha of same minds on this Blackwater thing?

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Dago
Are ack and Murtha of same minds on this Blackwater thing?

One thing is certain, you and johnboy obviously share the same mind.


ack-ack

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Stringer
Just some poor volunteer well-intentioned young people???  is that how you're trying to depict these mercenaries??

They were shooting at anything that moved...including away from them....they did not identify and shoot at threats...

Were you there?


Did you even read Yeager's post or were you just too spun up on what you think he was really trying to say?

[Dowding]

i love it when people pay attention to what i say.

You must be really disappointed on a regular basis then.

I'll give you one thing - you're a rare breed. Attention Defecit Disorder continued into adulthood. Perhaps some anthropologist can study you and write a paper?

[john9001]

Originally posted by Dowding

I'll give you one thing - you're a rare breed.  

thank you , thank you very much. You are a very astute judge of character.

[Dago]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
One thing is certain, you and johnboy obviously share the same mind.


ack-ack

I hoped you and others would learn not to rush to judgment of those who stand in harms way in a combat zone until a complete investigation has been conducted.  To do any less does a tremendous disservice to those involved, and often leaves a person with egg on their face, and in Murtha's case, a libel suit to defend against.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by Dago
I hoped you and others would learn not to rush to judgment of those who stand in harms way in a combat zone until a complete investigation has been conducted.  To do any less does a tremendous disservice to those involved, and often leaves a person with egg on their face, and in Murtha's case, a libel suit to defend against.

Dago, they are preliminary reports-that much is true.

However, Since the report was collected by U.S. servicemen on the spot, I don't believe we have any reason to doubt they're findings.

Unless, of course, you believe that Nancy Pelossi and Ted Kennedy were there with the insurgents, policing up empty brass.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

"It looked like they were fleeing the scene when they were ENGAGED"

Does not agree with:

"I did not see anything that indicated they [Blackwater guards] were fired upon."

Now, either some type or form of combatant or group of combatants engaged them or not. If you are in a combat situation, or an armed confrontation, or some sort of danger zone, "engaged" means "under some form of attack".

So, which was it?

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
"It looked like they were fleeing the scene when they were ENGAGED"

Is in reference to the Iraqis that were shot while trying to flee the area, not that the Blackwater guards were engaged with combatents while the guards tried to flee the area.


ack-ack

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Dago
I hoped you and others would learn not to rush to judgment of those who stand in harms way in a combat zone until a complete investigation has been conducted.  To do any less does a tremendous disservice to those involved, and often leaves a person with egg on their face, and in Murtha's case, a libel suit to defend against.

Actually if you read the report and you are taking blackwaters side, you are questioning the word and professionalism of our troops to defend contractors/mercs.

   "It appeared to me they were fleeing the scene when they were engaged. It had every indication of an excessive shooting," Tarsa is quoted as saying.

"I did not see anything that indicated they [Blackwater guards] were fired upon."

I will take the judgment of this man Lt. Col. Mike Tarsa who commands the 3rd Battalion, 92nd Field Artillery Regiment of the 2nd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division.

Over any like you on this board.

[crockett]

First off regardless if the contractors were at fault or not. It's pretty much a done deal that the guys that were there will take "all" the heat on this. Just like the few soldier's were used as pawns to take the heat in the whole Abu Ghraib prison scandal.  The big dogs are never responsible for their policies or actions of their own

I actually hope Iraq does kick them out though, mercenaries have no business fighting a war for this country.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Dago
I hoped you and others would learn not to rush to judgment of those who stand in harms way in a combat zone until a complete investigation has been conducted.  To do any less does a tremendous disservice to those involved, and often leaves a person with egg on their face, and in Murtha's case, a libel suit to defend against.

Where did I rush to judgement?  I just posted a news article that reported the preliminary findings of the US soldiers that arrived shortly on-scene.  However, there are a couple of posters in this thread have rushed to judgement, could you name the two?


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