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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2007, 12:32:04 PM »
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Currently the US are the biggest buyer of Russian fission materials.

 


do you know why that is? It's because your country is so poor it can not afford to dismantle it's nuke bombs according to the disarmament treaty, so the US agreed to "buy' the bombs and dismantle them.

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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2007, 01:12:05 PM »
now now john....dont go stomping on soviet pride!  wouldn't want another arms race, now would we:aok
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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2007, 02:09:22 PM »
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do you know why that is? It's because your country is so poor it can not afford to dismantle it's nuke bombs according to the disarmament treaty, so the US agreed to "buy' the bombs and dismantle them.


Where did you get this sensational information?! Please, share a source of your wisdom! :D

Our leadership is a gang of bloody collaborators, especially the previous regime, but even Yeltsyn didn't sell bombs to anyone. They only sold about 800 tons of weapon-grade plutonium for the price of lead.

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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2007, 02:28:01 PM »
boroda.. I believe we are buying the stuff from you so that you don't sell it to the next guy who comes up with a buck.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2007, 02:36:03 PM »
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boroda.. I believe we are buying the stuff from you so that you don't sell it to the next guy who comes up with a buck.


It's easier then that.

Comrade Gore had good personal relations with mr. Chernomyrdin. So they solved it like paying 10% of the price for weapon-grade material, and Chernomyrdin, Yeltsin and family got a little bit more rich. Everyone's happy.

BTW, why Russia signed contract with Australians to buy their raw uranium wholesale, not the US? The truth is that you guys don't care about terrorism or "democracy", but you know quite well where you can earn some bucks.

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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2007, 03:29:10 PM »
boroda, you are quite dillusional :D
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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2007, 03:33:32 PM »
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You are again misinformed. Russia is interested in non-military nuclear development in Iran. This is emphasized in every news program here. Putin said it himself.
We're misinformed?   :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2007, 03:39:50 PM »
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So - unlike countries who dont hesitate to start wars without thinking about the consequences - Iran has indeed not started wars for the last 100 years.
Iran just sends rifles, RPG's, ammo to Al Queda.    I cannot wait for the "demonstration of the Superior Missile Defense curtain".    My money is NOT on Iran.
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« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2007, 04:23:28 PM »
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We're misinformed?   :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


You are.

Again selected quotes, out of context. Putin insisted that Iran will get Russian fission materials ONLY if they'll be sent back for recycling. I don't know what your media feeds you - but here it's well-known even to the most hardcore liberastic collaborators.

Are you going to argue again? Putin SAID it in Tehran.

And you still have no idea what was the purpose of that meeting in Tehran. Definitely not Iranian power stations. We have more serious problems to discuss, and it's not your bloody business.

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« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2007, 04:29:41 PM »
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Iran just sends rifles, RPG's, ammo to Al Queda.    I cannot wait for the "demonstration of the Superior Missile Defense curtain".    My money is NOT on Iran.


Well, with you here - we'll have tons of fun! :D

US and UK send weapons, equipment and Moslim propaganda literature to Nothern Caucasus including Chechnya. Both of this countries host Chechen terrorist leaders. These are FACTS.

Now tell us please where did you hear about Iran supporting Sunni terrorists? Not "everyone knows", sources please, and I'd prefer something other then tabloids.

What you said above is as absurd as USSR sending supplies to Pol Pot.

Just one last question: is it true that you serve in the police?

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« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2007, 04:37:03 PM »
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If it wasn't for the fact that Iran (Actually, a few nutburger leaders) keeps threatening to erase Israel from the map,


Which "leaders" where they? and when did they "keep" threatening anyone?

The whole "wipe Israel off the map" this was a misquote from ONE speech in 2005, "World Without Zionism".

The actual translation:  
"The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)"

The "wipe off the map" quote is nothing more than an often repeated poor translation. Ask anyone who speaks Persian to translate Ahmadinejads speech, or try the magic of Google.

Besides that, Ahmadinejad isn't a "commander'n chief" president..  even if he really wanted too, he couldn't order the military to wipe their asses, much less Israel off the map.

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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2007, 04:38:12 PM »
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Well, with you here - we'll have tons of fun! :D

US and UK send weapons, equipment and Moslim propaganda literature to Nothern Caucasus including Chechnya. Both of this countries host Chechen terrorist leaders. These are FACTS.

Now tell us please where did you hear about Iran supporting Sunni terrorists? Not "everyone knows", sources please, and I'd prefer something other then tabloids.

What you said above is as absurd as USSR sending supplies to Pol Pot.

Just one last question: is it true that you serve in the police?
Let's see, 95% of the Rifles being used by the Terrorist supporters in Iraq are AK's, SKS's, & PKM's.    Not to mention the IED's that have already been traced back to Iran.
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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2007, 05:13:48 PM »
After the defeat of Saddams army many x-soldiers took their weapons with them or threw them away. In the first weeks you could see piles of AK-47 on the streets of Bagdad. And nearly every iraqi has at least one gun. Have you seen the pictures, when the soccer team of iraq had won the Asian Championship. Everywhere Iraquis in Bagdad, a AK in their hand and firing in the air.

These weapons were not from Iran.

Saddams Iraq got so many weapons from his allies of the "civilized world" during the 8 years of Iran-Iraq War that this country now has enough weapons. They simply are not dependant of iranian weapon deliveries.

Also there were too few occupation forces in Iraq to prevent that many weapons of the former Saddam army were stolen from the arsenals.

Iran produces weapons like the german G3 or the Heckler and Koch MP and also russian types of weapons.

I am also sure that Iran also helps the shi ites in iraq - like Saudi Arabia helps the sunnites in Iraq.

But to think that Iran would help the sunnite enemy - especially the sunnite Al Kaida is ridiculous.

Iran always fought against the sunnite terrorists of Al Kaida and the Talibans.
In east Iran, in the province of Belutshistan the Al Kaida  is fighting against iranian troops a guerilla war.
In the west province of Khusistan Al Kaida performs bomb attacks against civilian targets.

When Al Kaida made its 9/11 terror act against the WTC Iran was shocked and angry. There were demonstrations in many iranian cities against this act of terrorism. But also this was not mentioned in western media.

Its easier to think that Iran celebrated this terror act in a big pool party with Osama and his Al Kaida creatures.

The Al Kaida leaders in Iraq define the shi ites as subhumans and bomb especially shi ite targets like mosques and civilians. Check some speaches of the Al Kaida leader Al-Sarkawi (who has been eliminated meanwhile) about the shi ites. Its like reading speaches of Hitler or Himmler about the Jews. He defined them as subhumans who have to be exterminated.

The idea that Iran would equip these sunnite forces is only a propaganda gag of some western media.

But Iran is one of the strongest enemies of Al Kaida and the Taliban.

Long before 9/11, when the Taliban were supported by US-allies, like Pakistan or Saudi-Arabia, Iran was supporting the Northern Alliance - the civil war enemy of Al Kaida.

When the Al Kaida tried to destabilize the former soviet republic of Tadjikistan Iran helped the tadjik (I hopr the spelling is correct) government to win against the sunnite terrorists.
But sure - such things are never mentioned in western media.

Instead you get reports that iran is delivering weapons to Al Kaida and surely it was an iranian iceberg which sunk the Titanic :rolleyes:

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« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2007, 05:30:04 PM »
Ya'll making this way more complicated than it is.  One question and we know the answer to this.

Which country has the biggest investment in Iran?

It's all about the dollars today.
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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2007, 05:37:51 PM »
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Let's see, 95% of the Rifles being used by the Terrorist supporters in Iraq are AK's, SKS's, & PKM's.    Not to mention the IED's that have already been traced back to Iran.


You just named most reliable and low-maintenance firearms available. Just try to think why even a Chinese or Romanian AKM is better then M-16.

Plus this guys know how to use it. I still can disassemble and assemble an AK, last time I trained was in high school. Even our girls could do it.

IED's = ? Improvised explosive devices? All we got in Chechnya can be traced to terrorist training camps in NATO countries, that's what I know for sure. NATO countries maintain terrorist hospitals and training facilities, while Iran helps us catching Chechen gangsters. So who is our friend and who just screams about war on terror?

Look, in 1999 they found over 20 Stinger missiles in Chechnya. Now that's an evidence, not just people using cheap popular firearms made in China or Socialist Romania.

...I just wonder why do I even bother arguing with you?...