Author Topic: Boroda (Read 469 times)

BlueJ1 · « **on:** October 22, 2007, 07:35:19 PM »

I have a question for you sir.

A while ago there was that horrible school attack that took place. Anything ever come of it? I either havnt seen anyhting on the news about it or our lovely media didnt care to show it.

~~Blue~~

Boroda · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2007, 07:48:35 PM »

Terrorists killed, their leaders dead too, unfortunately they didn't get killed by bayonets, like pigs, as they deserved...

Before school attack in Beslan, an Orthodox republic of Osetia, there were hostage taking in Budennovsk, in 1995, when that creatures took a maternity hospital for ransom, then another attack on cossack town of Pervomayskaya, attack on Dagestan in 1999 when Russian army only provided artillery and air support to local militia, that kicked out the Chechen terrorists funded from Saudi Arabia, then apartment house bombings in Moscow, Volgodonsk and Buinaksk, (ask Estel - he worked on Gurianov street site in 1999), then - Nord-Ost theater with 1200 hostages, then - only then came Beslan.

This creatures deserve bayonets. All of them terrorists.

Sorry for being too emotional. Seriously - it could be me blown up at night, sleeping, in 1999. My 80 years old Grandmother spent all night in the rain during an anti-terrorist training... In October.

Back in 1999 we greeted each other: "Hi! You still not blown up?"...

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2007, 08:50:58 PM »

Thankyou sir. No need to say sorry for getting emotional. I did not know of the earlier events due to me being a young'n. But being older now I like foreign news more then my own.

I agree with you completely on treatment of these kind of people.

Another question if you dont mind. What kind of policy does your goverment have with terrorists? Such as a department in your government designed to deal with terrorism.

And what does anti-terrorism training entail?

Boroda · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2007, 01:46:27 PM »

Anti-terror measures are on FSB, Federal Security Service, former part of KGB (Committee of State Security). Militia (police) also has anti-terror groups. In last years over 300 terror acts were prevented.

Frankly speaking I am surprised that we had only two explosions in Moscow Metro (Underground) since Soviet times (In 1977 there was a subway car blown up by Armenian (!!!) separatists). It's quite easy for the bastards to make the whole megapolis literally collapse... Moscow is a really huge city, with many critical spots. Blow up some electric lines, gas pipes - and we'll dumbly freeze in winter. You know, MSK is to the North even from populated part of Canada, add continental climate and it's worse then most of Alaska.

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Originally posted by BlueJ1
And what does anti-terrorism training entail?

You know, usually our beloved Militia takes measures after terror acts. They just had all 80 apartment house "evacuated" into the cold rain while they were "searching" for a bomb. My local district Militia officer was a Chechen, a nice guy, but he still didn't learn Russian in 10 years...

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2007, 02:43:37 PM »

Thankyou for you answer sir.

One more. What kind of terrorists does you country deal with? Such as the U.S. primarily deals with Al Queda.

Angus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2007, 03:42:26 PM »

Couldn't you turn another terrorist group in on these guys?

Boroda · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2007, 06:27:58 PM »

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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Thankyou for you answer sir.

One more. What kind of terrorists does you country deal with? Such as the U.S. primarily deals with Al Queda.

Chechen "rebels" were our enemies since early XIX century, they lived by robbing Russian caravans to Georgia and nearby Cossack settlements.

Now they get funded by sunni regimes, especially extremist vahabbit organizations. Hint: Saudi Arabia is the only Moslim country that follows vahabbism.

Al Kaida is sponsored from the same source, and I find it at least strange that US host Ilyas Akhmadov, the "official" Chechen ambassador and negotiator. Western uniforms, munitions, instructional literature, communication equipment is routinely found in Chechnya. People killed by Federal forces sometimes have British passports and get killed with weapons in hands. Illegally crossing the Georgian border. It's not a secret that Georgian leadership gets their salary in Department of State (seriously).

So, we fight the same enemy, that by some strange occasion, gets assistance from our "allies" in a "war on terror". Some of the Chechen "militants" are detained in Guantanamo, at least three of them were released, gave pathetic interviews in pro-Western media here, just to be caught later in a gas-pipeline explosion attempt.

What I am sure about is that regimes helping creatures who take a maternity home for ransom deserve the same attitude. Sorry.

68ROX · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2007, 06:57:51 PM »

DEFINITELY no need to apologize for the emotions, Boroda.

Bayonet would be nice (one of those LONG razor sharp ones from those Russian WWII rifles), but...

Maybe we can talk ghi into bringing back his old Transylvanian custom of "Vlad The Impaler" for every terrorist on EARTH?

I would gladly contribute to the fund to buy the 150 foot crane to drop them onto the 50 foot tall sharpened spikes! PLEASE televise it on Al Jazeera! Show them what happens to terrorists.

Tell your grandma I said HI...having barely missed a PLO bombing in 1979 at Frankfurt/Germany airport by half an hour myself...I pray her luck continues, as well as your neighbors.

68ROX

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2007, 07:16:17 PM »

Again, thankyou very much Boroda. You've expanded my education on your country . I'll stop grilling you with questions now.

~~Blue~~

E25280 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2007, 08:50:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
So, we fight the same enemy, that by some strange occasion, gets assistance from our "allies" in a "war on terror".

Funny (in a cosmic sense) you should feel this way. I was about to ask why you thought Russia was so cozy with Iran, who is perhaps the worlds #1 supporter and exporter of islamic terrorism. Do you think there is a little tit-for-tat going on there?

Either way, I really wish the so-called "leaders" of both our countries would be consistent. All terrorists are equal as far as I am concerned, and all deserve equal treatment.

Scherf · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2007, 09:05:21 PM »

No, I ain't even a-gonna.

Boroda · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2007, 07:40:11 AM »

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Originally posted by E25280
Funny (in a cosmic sense) you should feel this way. I was about to ask why you thought Russia was so cozy with Iran, who is perhaps the worlds #1 supporter and exporter of islamic terrorism. Do you think there is a little tit-for-tat going on there?

Read Babek's posts about Iran. Iran is in fact on our side, fighting the same Sunni Arabic terrorist groups. Western media gives a very biased coverage of Russian-Iranian relations, for example they never quote Putin speaking about the restrictions on Russian nuclear aid. UK is openly hostile towards Russian anti-terrorist campaign, US covers it's assistance to Chechens by some semi-government "humanitarian" funds, speaking about "human rights" for terrorists, at the same time detaining Russian citizens caught in Afghanistan by "coalition" forces... While FSB shares information on terror plans in the UK with British law-enforcement.

I am surprised how Western people are manipulated, it already reached the scale of anti-Serbian hysteria of 1999...

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2007, 08:26:09 AM »

Or it might be that western media is not 100% owned by mr. Putin like *cough* somewhere else..

Boroda · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2007, 09:19:22 AM »

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Or it might be that western media is not 100% owned by mr. Putin like *cough* somewhere else..

Here media is far from being owned by regime. Regime attacks left-wing press some times, but this is never mentioned by "human rights activists".

We have at least a dozen newspapers that are owned by enemies of the regime, at least two TV channels and some extreme right-wing liberal media like popular radio stations. Western pet-clowns like Kasparov and Kasyanov get enough media-coverage.

I don't like Putin's domestic policy, and not because of "killing free press" and so on, but for his social policy and cooperation with crooks from 1990s. Killing science, killing industry, keeping money invested in US bonds, instead of using them here...