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« Reply #120 on: November 03, 2007, 09:00:11 AM »
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Huh? You don't know the US supported Iraq directly in the war?

Instead of falling back to the "show me the proof!" stance, go study the US support yourself. It's not a secret and never was, there was no attempt to really cover it.

Google it.


I'll argue that supported and sponsored are not the same. Sponsorship in this case implies the US encouraged Saddam to attack and provided arms. I believe this isn't the case. The US was attacked by Iran without warning and therefore had no love for Iranians but I don't believe you have any evidence to prove the US motivated Saddam to attack them. I will agree that once the war was underway the US did provide some non-warfare specific materials to Iraq.
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« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2007, 09:16:43 AM »
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If China invaded the US, I'd be out there causing hate & discontent with whatever I could get my hands on; collateral damage to my fellow Joe would suck, but as they say "war is hell"...
 


but what if china invaded to overthrow that corrupt US govt you keep complaining about, and set up a govt based on the US constitution instead of Big Oil?

and the chinese were favoring ron paul for president?

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« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2007, 09:57:36 AM »
LOL.. an iranian wife?  no chit?  that explains a lot.   he will sure be bitter once she leaves his butt.

xmarine.. you are a tool...  you hear some guy on a video saying he got shot for "no reason" because he was tailgating... course.. there was a 8' square sign in his language that said... "get within 500' and we will shoot"  they were guarding diplomats.

What excuse do you have for car bombs that kill nothing but civilians in a shopping area?  

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« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2007, 10:07:51 AM »
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All universities in Iraq were free, a dirt poor Iraqi could attend the Harvard of Iraq for nothing... they're, were, a-lot of well educated folks there who used to enjoy a civilized life.


and when their soccer team lost the players were beaten and tortured.

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« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2007, 10:11:40 AM »
"What excuse do you have for car bombs that kill nothing but civilians in a shopping area?"

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« Reply #125 on: November 03, 2007, 10:31:20 AM »
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but what if china invaded to overthrow that corrupt US govt you keep complaining about, and set up a govt based on the US constitution instead of Big Oil?

and the chinese were favoring ron paul for president?


Then Ron Paul was obviously in bed with the Chinese all along, He's most likely a commie, and you guys' all fell in love with him! :lol

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« Reply #126 on: November 03, 2007, 11:13:40 AM »
Back to the original topic of violence being down.......

I was back at Brooke Army Medical Center this past week. My son had to have another surgery. The number of wounded in the hospital was way down from when I was there last February and March. Earlier in the year every room on the ortho ward was full or near full. This past week many were empty or only had one occupant.

I know this isn't proof of anything, but it was a relief to not see rooms full of chewed up young men.

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« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2007, 11:30:17 AM »
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I for one hope for victory every day... I'm just not ready to hang a "Mission Accomplished" banner up yet and call it good because we've recently seen a drop in violence over the past few months.

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Dyna


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« Reply #128 on: November 03, 2007, 11:36:40 AM »
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Well the roadside bombs these guys use are pretty exact, there are literally 100's of IED videos on terroristmedia.com and unfortunately they rarely miss.. these arent always crude explosives, they use infa-red and fairly sophisticated triggers.


be sure to thank your wifes friends and relatives for that ...
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« Reply #129 on: November 03, 2007, 11:41:24 AM »
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Back to the original topic of violence being down.......

I was back at Brooke Army Medical Center this past week. My son had to have another surgery. The number of wounded in the hospital was way down from when I was there last February and March. Earlier in the year every room on the ortho ward was full or near full. This past week many were empty or only had one occupant.

I know this isn't proof of anything, but it was a relief to not see rooms full of chewed up young men.



that is great news .. odd how it hasn't made the evening news but then any good news from Iraq isn't news as it doesn't follow their agenda of getting their lefty buds elected in 08

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« Reply #130 on: November 03, 2007, 03:50:59 PM »
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that is great news .. odd how it hasn't made the evening news but then any good news from Iraq isn't news as it doesn't follow their agenda of getting their lefty buds elected in 08

Shifty
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You saw it on the news then still felt obligated to villify the news over a paranoid suspicion.

I see. :D

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« Reply #131 on: November 03, 2007, 04:03:40 PM »
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that is great news .. odd how it hasn't made the evening news but then any good news from Iraq isn't news as it doesn't follow their agenda of getting their lefty buds elected in 08

Shifty
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I will Eagler, thanks.

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« Reply #132 on: November 03, 2007, 07:33:59 PM »
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be sure to thank your wifes friends and relatives for that ...


Wow.... out of the closet on that one..:huh

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« Reply #133 on: November 03, 2007, 07:43:31 PM »
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Back to the original topic of violence being down.......

I was back at Brooke Army Medical Center this past week. My son had to have another surgery. The number of wounded in the hospital was way down from when I was there last February and March. Earlier in the year every room on the ortho ward was full or near full. This past week many were empty or only had one occupant.

I know this isn't proof of anything, but it was a relief to not see rooms full of chewed up young men.


What do you think Shifty, how do you and your son feel about this whole thing. Do you feel like the current political leadership has been doing a good job about your son and what they've asked him to do? You think we oughta keep staying this path for another 5 years, 10 years?

I personally feel like the current political and military leadership's decisions and actions have left your son out in the dark, and it saddens and angers me to see the constant volley'ing around of there mission and their lives.

I've advised a few people who were my friends not to get involved in this untill there is a redirection of and refocus of the military it's resources and it's mission by the people who are supposed to be protecting them. I'm shocked by the some of the stuff i've seen our own country do to the soldiers and their actions. That makes me question.

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« Reply #134 on: November 03, 2007, 07:52:38 PM »
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You saw it on the news then still felt obligated to villify the news over a paranoid suspicion.

I see. :D

ONLY ABC reported ANYthing on this
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The CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly skipped the positive trend, but CBS had time for a story on the investigation of the September shooting of civilians by Blackwater and NBC aired a piece on Hillary Clinton "playing the gender card." The Washington Post and New York Times on Friday also made very different news judgments on the importance of the positive direction as the Post put the news on its front page while the Times hid it in a story, on an inside page, about Iran's role in Iraq.
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