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Offline Louis XVII

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Violence in Iraq has dropped by 70 percent
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2007, 03:38:05 AM »
but in 2003...

Offline Delirium

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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2007, 05:14:27 AM »
None of us really know what is going on over there, even the infantry man that is over there is only getting a 'key-hole' kind of vision on the real picture.

The Press say one thing, the White House says another... I think reality is somewhere in the middle.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2007, 05:16:17 AM »
70% down? Excellent :)

The troops should stay for many many years/decades then and keep it that way. Maybe even add more :aok. Double the effort in troops numbers and see it go down even further :aok

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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2007, 07:47:14 AM »
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70% down? Excellent :)

The troops should stay for many many years/decades then and keep it that way. Maybe even add more :aok. Double the effort in troops numbers and see it go down even further :aok


Like we've done in Germany, Japan, and many other countries?

Keeping the peace is a thankless job. We may just get tired of it one day.
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2007, 08:01:43 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 08:06:13 AM »
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Like we've done in Germany, Japan, and many other countries?

Keeping the peace is a thankless job. We may just get tired of it one day.


Nah I doubt that. :aok

Keep fighting :)

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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2007, 08:12:56 AM »
Don't make us come there and bomb you to the stone age, Nilsen
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2007, 08:13:46 AM »
forget it mark... like all lefties he just wants to appear clever and snipe at the heels.

skyrock..  I wish you would not be so evasive about how you feel.   certainly there were mistakes made... name me one war that none were made.   This one had some good ones but they were mostly....  the result of being cautious.. of fearing to make to big an effort out of it and... arrogance as well.   both sides, left and right are to blame.

They left, you, can't wait for casualties to mount so you can snipe (while screaming how much you support the brave troops)... why not admit it?  you love to see failure and hate to see any victory.

We did it wrong at first.. or.. more accurately ...made more mistakes than we needed to.    Now...

A new plan and it is showing success... so how do the left react?   70% less casualties... good stuff right?   nope... bad news for democrats who think that cut and run is the way to go.

but back to you skyrock.. you snipe the mistakes and the victories.. the failures and the success...  while purporting to "support the troops"  have you even talked to any of em?

Still that is not the bad part... the bad part is that you don't even have the guts to be honest about your agenda... if you were you would tell us what you think we should do..

You don't have a plan... not one lefty here does... yet...you can snipe away at the sidelines like some bitter old socialist queen.

Grow a pair and tell us exactly what you would do so we can "critique" it.

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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2007, 08:16:45 AM »
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Don't make us come there and bomb you to the stone age, Nilsen


How are bombs gonna get us into the future?

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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2007, 08:25:15 AM »
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You don't have a plan... not one lefty here does... yet...you can snipe away at the sidelines like some bitter old socialist queen.


uh oh... Lazs is pulling both the big bad "socialist" AND "leftists" words out of his arsenal. Add a few personal insults and his shock and awe tactic is completed :rofl

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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2007, 09:21:45 AM »
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How are bombs gonna get us into the future?



Not you..  us....  we bomb you into the stone age then steal your women away with big flashy cars while all you have is ummm stones.

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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2007, 09:54:13 AM »
Lets hope this is a trend that continues...too many good people have died to let this thing go to waste like the political left so dearly hopes.
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2007, 10:10:16 AM »
Kamiliyun, probably an old habit from long ago.  I've spent more time on a manual typewriter than a computer.  Long before bold, colored font, and cute smilies.  Probably goes back to that, but it's pretty much a habit as that's how we used to Emphasize a particular point :)


The hard thing for some to understand is how beneficial it is to gather your enemies into a single area of operation.

Imagine fighting a war where the combatants were scattered across the globe, in small mobile cells.  Now, they are converging on Iraq, not on our soil by the way, and sticking their heads up like whack-a-mole.

Now, one could argue that there wasn't a reason to go to Iraq, but what better place than the middle of a desert to draw your enemies into.  Would you prefer we had a running gun fight through the downtowns of every major city looking for a couple of rouge cells per city bent on blowing things up?

At some point you need to think outside what the mainstream media is feeding you and consider the alternatives.

Not doing something about this is not an alternative.  Better now than later, better there than here.

Got a better idea?
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2007, 11:09:57 AM »
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Kamiliyun, probably an old habit from long ago.  I've spent more time on a manual typewriter than a computer.  Long before bold, colored font, and cute smilies.  Probably goes back to that, but it's pretty much a habit as that's how we used to Emphasize a particular point :)


I know...was just giving you grief.  It was like reading the Delcaration of Independence :D

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Now, one could argue that there wasn't a reason to go to Iraq, but what better place than the middle of a desert to draw your enemies into. Would you prefer we had a running gun fight through the downtowns of every major city looking for a couple of rouge cells per city bent on blowing things up?


I hardly think that AQ is solely focusing on Iraq.  To think that is dangerous and complacent.  No one should feel more safe post 9/11 at home in the US just b/c we are fighting them "over there".

AQ are misguided a-holes, but not idiots.  They've probably figured out that we have an insecure border down South, are incapable of tracking 10-15 million illegals in this country, and are learning Spanish as I type this.  Heck, probably getting lessons from Hugo Chavez, or recruiting in the Philipines or North Africa.  And don't tell me that Mexico is capable of securing it's borders to prevent AQ from infiltrating and then crossing.

Iraq is a "we broke it, we bought it" situation at this point, but by no means a victory, or even partial success in the War on Terror.  That's not bashing b/c I'm a lefty...that's reality.  I hope we win there, but that's not the end of anything.  We'll be fighting Muslim extremists for the next 1000 years if we last that long.  They don't even need leadership.  A few Mullah Mullah Mullah Mullah Omar bin Omars could be inspired by a taped OBL message, a bombing in Iraq, a comet, or the thought of 70 hairy legged virgins.

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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2007, 11:20:32 AM »
Good post, I agree with a vast majority of it (except picking on ROC).  :)

I take it you are a Powell fan, Kamilyun?
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