The Video Mrs Clinton doesnt want the world to see

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by moot
Peter Paul, not Ron Paul.

oops!

[lazs2]

skyrock... in combat, every army in the world has done horrible things.   The longer the conflict and the longer the men are in it.. the more atrocities.. the crueler the enemy the more atrocities.

But... American soldiers are probly the most humane of any soldiers the world has ever fielded.  more moral than their enemies in every case.

That is not to say the atrocities should not be reported when committed... to the contrary.. that is what makes us moral.   I just believe the kerries reportings were not only false but... politically motivated.  

as for hillary...  she is a total political animal and an avowed socialist.. In a new book on her they mention that she has a couch pillow embroidered with "take and spend"  she really believes in socialism.. she believes in society raising children instead of families and she believes in taking away the rights given us by the constitution especially the second.. because she fears it.

Like all good commies.. the rules don't apply to her... she can smear and lie and steal and kill and it is ok because... she believes the commie motto

The end justifies the means.

thing they never think off is.. all we have is the means.. we don't know what the end is or even if it is what we expect.   even the most rabid socialist might be appalled if he got what he wanted...

I don't think any democrat candidate out there is any better than her in that respect.. they are all evil socialists but... none are quite as immoral as her.... some close but... none as pure evil.

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by AKIron
Just like the forged awol document Dan Rather and CBS refused to give national attention to.  Oh wait, they did.

It's not about credibility at all, it's about political agenda.

cbs, nbc, abc, cnn, fox, there all a bunch of blowhards if you ask me.  Tell us if you believe GWBush served all of his time where he was supposed to?

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2
 I just believe the kerries reportings were false  



lazs

Which ones?  Name one statement he made that did not occur in vietnam.

[AKIron]

I don't know and I don't really care much either. Now if his unit had gone to Vietnam without him we might have somethig to talk about.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Which ones?  Name one statement he made that did not occur in vietnam.

According to others who were there he lied about quite a lot.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38535

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Testifying before congress about crimes against humanity hardly makes one a traitor, that is unless you are of the opinion that killing unarmed women and children should be kept between friends.  Anytime a war is fought with no clear goal, and in a guerilla style, you will have even the best soldiers succomb to crimes against humanity, as we have seen in IRAQ already.  That's not to say that all are doing it, as I certainly do not believe that to be true, but a soldier starts to hate the indigenous people as he and his buds slowly start to get waxed by guerilla tactics.  Mistrust of the public you're there to help leads to abuse.  It's as old as war itself.  All crimes against humanity should be shouted from the highest hilltop and to all corners of the world, no matter who the culprits are.

His testimony was a LIE, it has been proven he was not where he claimed to be when the events occurred and in fact he is guilty of perjury. He refuses to sign off on the release of his service record and in fact he didn't even get an actual discharge until CARTER gave him one. His "Winter Soldier" testimony is a known and proven LIE, and everyone in the military knows it. That is the reason he will NEVER sign off to release his records. Along with the fact he was NEVER in Cambodia as he claimed, and he put himself in for every "decoration" he was awarded.

And, just so you know, meeting with North Vietnamese officials in Paris while wearing his uniform but not being authorized to do so IS TREASON. He did it, and he brags about it.

[john9001]

Originally posted by SkyRock
cbs, nbc, abc, cnn, fox, there all a bunch of blowhards if you ask me.  Tell us if you believe GWBush served all of his time where he was supposed to?

kerry also got a early release from the military to work on a political campaign, at that time the war was winding down and the military was giving early release to many because they were not needed.

[AKIron]

Hehe

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Which ones?  Name one statement he made that did not occur in vietnam.

ALL of the statements he made are FALSE, because he was NEVER THERE When it happened. Look it up, it's a proven fact that Kerry testified to rumors he HEARD, and NOTHING he actually SAW. He was NOT THERE to SEE it happen. Therefore ANY testimony he gives is at best second hand and completely inadmissible in ANY court. All of these "atrocities" that he SWEARS he was WITNESS to and a PARTICIPANT in and yet he has NEVER actually been called to testify in any court martial case according to what records CAN be released, since Kerry himself will never release his records? Ever wonder why? Because there's not a shred of factual evidence to support his testimony.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
His testimony was a LIE, it has been proven he was not where he claimed to be when the events occurred and in fact he is guilty of perjury. He refuses to sign off on the release of his service record and in fact he didn't even get an actual discharge until CARTER gave him one. His "Winter Soldier" testimony is a known and proven LIE, and everyone in the military knows it. That is the reason he will NEVER sign off to release his records. Along with the fact he was NEVER in Cambodia as he claimed, and he put himself in for every "decoration" he was awarded.

And, just so you know, meeting with North Vietnamese officials in Paris while wearing his uniform but not being authorized to do so IS TREASON. He did it, and he brags about it.

Do you need a copy of his testimony to point those lies out?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by SkyRock
What service?  You gonna defend a spoiled brat getting out of serving in vietnam and avoiding courtmarshal for being AWOL?  Or are you saying he wasn't AWOL?  Maybe you're defending the fact that the records were manipulated?  
I have never been a fan of Kerry, but he did serve in vietnam, and however it actually went down, noone ever disputed that he did in fact come under enemy fire.  Lil bush was too much of a coward to risk a stray bullet.

Yes, his own men disputed several instances where Kerry claimed he was under enemy fire. The MAJORITY who came forward disputed his accounts. At least a couple of his claims, where HE put HIMSELF in for decorations, have been strongly disputed by men who were there. The MAJORITY of men who were there.


Bush, by the way, flew century series fighters, most REAL pilots will tell you that was the most dangerous series of fighters in the U.S. inventory since World War I. His unit WAS eligible to go to Vietnam, but was never selected to go.

[AKIron]

Bottom line, Kerry's ability to further damage this country has been forever limited. Let's do the same with the Clintons.

[lazs2]

skyrock.. that is what I have heard.  He never was in the places he claimed to be... the swiftboat guys nailed him in lies about his service so why would anything else he said be true?

While I abhor people who attack our soldiers and people who claim to have served and have not...  right down there next on the list of despicable types are those who lie about what they did in the service..  worse if they lie to make the rest of the men look bad.

He never seen any atrocities.   He just was never there to see em.  

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
ALL of the statements he made are FALSE, because he was NEVER THERE When it happened. Because there's not a shred of factual evidence to support his testimony.

He stated that his statements in the 'Winter Soldiers" part of the testimony were results of an investigation and taken from testimony of soldiers that were there.  So are you saying that soldiers did not admit to those types of atrocities?  Maybe you are saying those types of autrocities did not occur?