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Offline eagl

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« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2007, 09:31:02 PM »
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But for those of us who aren't, we can clearly see what is happening in the video.


Dude, that's retarded.

"we can clearly see" is ALWAYS what the ignorant say when talking out of their anus.  It doesn't matter if it's a congressman talking about the intertubes or a self-proclaimed aviation safety expert talking about a go around after an aborted landing, it's still nonsense.  Half of what I do in my job can be, and has been, mis-interpreted by civilians, pilots and pedestrians alike, simply because although they "clearly see" something I do, they lack the background or actual knowledge to properly interpret what they are in fact seeing.  They see but do not actually perceive the truth or context so the conclusions they reach are quite incorrect in spite of clearly seeing whatever it is they saw.

The only thing you can "clearly see" in that video is that the pilot let the wing get pretty damn close to the ground because he began a fairly aggressive turn before climbing very much.  That's it.  Any speculation about the airspeed is just that, speculation.  In my opinion (having flown somewhat more than 4 types of light aircraft) the speed looks just fine, but I would not venture a guess as to how close the plane was to stall speed.  I will offer the observation that the plane did not appear to wallow, it's pitch, roll, and yaw rates were consistent with fully controlled flight well above the stall (remember, I TEACH stalls and spins for a living) and although the turn appears to have been made at a stupidly low altitude, it was in fact done in VFR which essentially leaves it up to the pilot as to when to make his first turn on a climbout.

Again, it looks like it was a stupidly low turn, but wild speculation about airspeeds and equally wild accusations and protestations of some sort of expert knowledge is pretty dumb.

IMHO.
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« Reply #46 on: October 29, 2007, 01:46:03 AM »
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I rate this thread a 7/10 on the Serenity Post Embarrassment Scale.


Nah, I say 9/10, I assume he is an adult, though I doubt it now, that being said, he should know better.

He  is like a BGBmaw who can spell. :D

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« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2007, 03:44:58 AM »
Golfer nailed it.
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« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2007, 05:03:17 AM »
:rofl

All this thread now needs is a funny little cartoon strip and it will be perfect.
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« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2007, 05:17:21 AM »
Another POV, if you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfhC9ft_hk

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« Reply #50 on: October 29, 2007, 05:18:53 AM »
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« Reply #51 on: October 29, 2007, 05:36:07 AM »
That Airbus A310 was flown well in limits, they wont risk getting into an stall at these alts because that would almost instantly kill them.
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« Reply #52 on: October 29, 2007, 08:11:09 AM »
AquaShrimp, there are two big ways you can respond to being wrong about something.  Grownups acknowledge their error and go forward.  Or, you can stick to your guns in the face of overwhelming evidence and call people names.

You have chosen the latter, and it doesn't reflect well on you.  Your credibility has taken quite a hit.
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« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2007, 09:27:01 AM »
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If I offended some drunk that lives in Virginia, or a fat guy that flies a tiny plane, that was not my original intention, just an added benefit.



So where do you live?

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« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2007, 09:44:25 AM »
eagl..give it a break...you haven't flown anything...hehehe; )


and GTO..is that an insult?   Please I have never come close to the recockulous remarks this turdlinger has said..


and yes Virgil is fat and Golfer is skinny and chair is a drunk....Did i get that right?

wow what a kook... I think you need to read a book on how to argue kakashrump


true though..I have flown in well over 20 diff types of planes  (which makes me an expert)....mostly in the passenger cabin though...and I can tell you ONE THING FOR SURE!!!!!  That Pilot MADE ME SPILL MY DRINK...Lo speed Or NOT!!!!

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« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2007, 10:37:45 AM »
after studying the videos for a few seconds, it is my opinion that the field is caped and that was a defensive turn to avoid being vulched.

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« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2007, 10:43:38 AM »
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eagl..give it a break...you haven't flown anything...hehehe; )


and GTO..is that an insult?   Please I have never come close to the recockulous remarks this turdlinger has said..


and yes Virgil is fat and Golfer is skinny and chair is a drunk....Did i get that right?

wow what a kook... I think you need to read a book on how to argue kakashrump


true though..I have flown in well over 20 diff types of planes  (which makes me an expert)....mostly in the passenger cabin though...and I can tell you ONE THING FOR SURE!!!!!  That Pilot MADE ME SPILL MY DRINK...Lo speed Or NOT!!!!


Nah that was low of me, your just the worst speller I could think of, but I dont think you would be this lame. Sorry man.

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« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2007, 11:59:14 AM »
For what its worth, it's very simple to get an AA5 to hover, or at least come darn close...My best is a G/S around 10 knots...OHHH NO!  THE DANGER!
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« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2007, 12:12:43 PM »
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The ratio of pilot/non-pilots is interesting when tallying opinions on this issue.


Bingo.

He's an armchair pilot acting like he's the profound know it all.

His assumptions of knowing it all about the F-14 was rather revealing.

It takes more than sitting thru the military channel for a few weeks to know aviation.

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« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2007, 12:33:15 PM »
gto..I'm using Firefox now it has spell check auto!!