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Offline TUXC

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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2007, 09:19:21 PM »
How much does the single bomb rack (the one that remains after a bomb or tank is released on the -1A) degrade the performance of the -1A? Does it reduce speed and acceleration to the point where performance is equal to the -1D or is the change not that drastic?
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2007, 12:22:17 AM »
About 5-6mph, so she'll still have a slight speed advantage over the 1D even with the rack.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2007, 02:42:38 AM »
It doesn't matter which Corsair I fly, -1, -1A, -1C, -1D, -4....

I still get killed in them   ;-)
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2007, 03:44:48 AM »
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Point of order regarding fuel:

I know from my own experience before we received the 1A that a LOT of 1D pilots will carry a drop tank or two if they're going in as a pure fighter because of the more limited internal fuel load (even full internal just doesn't seem like enough to me, though not nearly as bad as the gas-guzzling -4). So generally by the time the two aircraft actually enter combat, any advantage the 1D may have because of its lighter internal fuel load is going to be negated.
 


Or maybe they do what I do.
Carry DT's till engaging/engaged, then DROP them. That meaning, your then in your lighter, fighting "prime" so to speak.
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2007, 05:34:22 AM »
well in the -1a there is absolutelty no reason why u need a drop tank.

a -1a at 50 percent fuel carries the same amount if fuel as the -1d and -1c at 100 percent.

a -1a at 75 percent will give u aprox. 34 minutes of flying, and u can quickly drain the wing tanks empty while climbing the fight, infact ususally by the time u get to where u want to go u have about 80% fuel left, and this is very econimical because u are not OVERLOADED, yet u have plenty of fuel to stay for quit a while.

anything over 50% fuel to a -1a is like adding extra drop tanks, and since its not really a bomber, there is no reason to carry 1 1000 pounder, so u wont have to worry about the bomb rack.

the -1a is second to the -4 only in terms of dogfighting.

In my honest opinion i think its more efficent than the -4 because u dont draw as much attention to yourself.

Either way, u must really learn a corsair to fly it affectivly because it is a VERY UNFORGIVING PLANE.

If u mess up u can lose alot of Energy or stall among other things as well.

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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2007, 08:27:53 AM »
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It doesn't matter which Corsair I fly, -1, -1A, -1C, -1D, -4....

I still get killed in them   ;-)


That reminds me. Fun fight the other day. you left the arena before I could send you a salute. So . (F4U-1C vs F4U-1A)

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2007, 08:49:38 AM »
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Did you happen to collect the turn DPSs Widewing?


My data with full flaps...

F4U-4: 19.9 dps
F4U-1A: 19.7 dps
F4U-1D: 19.6 dps
F4U-1: 19.5 dps
F4U-1C: 19.0 dps

Mosq's data with full flaps.... His data predates the F4U-1A.

F4U-4: 19.7 dps
F4U-1D: 19.4 dps
F4U-1: 19.3 dps
F4U-1C: 18.7 dps

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2007, 10:18:59 AM »
Trigger,

My point is that by the time a 1D and 1A enter combat, they're both flying on roughly the same internal fuel weight (1As burn their wings down, 1Ds carry a DT and release it entering combat -- which actually, depending on the situation sometimes I'll hold mine until I need to be able to turn) which at LEAST negates any advantage the D gains in carrying less fuel at a given percentage, and may now make the 1Ds heavier airframe a factor.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2007, 10:55:55 AM »
well, when I fly the -1 or -1a, I use 75% fuel all the time.  I keep the fuel selector on auto.  When u get 75% fuel, there only 25% in each wing and 100% in main.  Auto burns the main first.  When it switches to wing tanks, that my ticket telling me to go home.  Wing tanks will get u home at least 1-1.5 sectors home, unless u fuel conserve u can go 2 sectors on just the 25% wing tanks.  2nd reason for not using the wing tanks till I go home is for fuel leaks.  Most fuel leaks I get are the main tank.  Very rarely get a wing tank leak.  Again my ticktet home.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2007, 11:41:04 AM »
Always wondered why the two aircraft have the same light load of 10,010 lbs. (i.e. when both are dry of fuel and ammo).

I thought at first that maybe the D-hog's pylons and jabo mechanisms had a similar weight to the non-self-sealing wing tank system in the A-hog but can anyone enlighten me on that?
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2007, 01:54:17 PM »
i stoped flying the d because i found out where the fuel tank is guess where it is right in front of the cotpit it is right next to the canopy when on fire in real life it must get offily hot in there also you can go somewhere in the 1a
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2007, 03:05:26 PM »
Fuel tank fires burn for 30 seconds and then you explode REGARDLESS of what aircraft you're flying (except for Zekes, which burn for hours). Location has no effect on this in the game whatsoever.
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2007, 03:36:47 PM »
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Originally posted by Widewing
My data with full flaps...

F4U-4: 19.9 dps
F4U-1A: 19.7 dps
F4U-1D: 19.6 dps
F4U-1: 19.5 dps
F4U-1C: 19.0 dps

Minimum Turn Radius, Sea Level, Full Flaps.
F4U-1A: 422 feet
F4U-1D: 427 feet
Thank you sir.  I've been advising that excluding the C, turn performance is so close that it rarely would be a deciding factor.  Glad to see numbers showing how close they actually are.

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2007, 05:48:21 PM »
still prefer the -1 over all others......better rear view, and  never have had a problem with the birdcage others complain about
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2007, 08:22:45 PM »
I like -1 better to.  I think it a better stall fighter.
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